Talk:Christiaan Lindemans

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" Irrevelant to the outcome of the military operation"?! It is said, according to history books, Lindemans' betray costed the death of 7500 british soldiers in the Operation Market-Garden and prolonged the European war for 8 month, even caused indirectly the death of 200,000 Dutchmen due to dam breach in the prolonged war. ——Nutcracker胡桃夹子^.^tell me... 08:42, 12 May 2011 (UTC)

I agree. Oreste Pinto writes that Lindemans' knowledge was that the attack was to happen somewhere north of Eindhoven and carried out initially by Airborne troops. That led directly to the Nazis moving their armor under cover of darkness to positions overlooking likely targets. I'll edit the article and reference accordingly. Jamesfett (talk) 23:05, 20 June 2012 (UTC)

Hard to believe that Lindemans himself was responsible for debacle of Market-Garden. This poorly planed bumbling operation was destined to fail regardless to Linedmans disclosures. Second paragraph is just unsourced speculation. --RomanM82 (talk) 12:57, 24 June 2013 (UTC)

Editorializing

Is this line - "(h)is love for women and gambling was limitless, he didn't know the meaning of fear; unfortunately neither did he know the meaning of loyalty.[2]" - really appropriate? It sounds like editorializing and elsewhere the article states that he turned sides to save his brother and his fiancee, the mother of his child. Seaoneil (talk) 20:33, 12 June 2013 (UTC)

Grammar and Speeling

This is only one example "pass was forged, Kooy had him locked him up in a coal cellar near the police station ." — Preceding unsigned comment added by 151.136.144.155 (talk) 08:04, 3 August 2015 (UTC)

The grammar is still faulty.Kdammers (talk) 04:43, 27 November 2016 (UTC)

A disgrace

Is what this article is. It's so full of gossip, speculation, pseudohistory and biased politics, that it should be scrapped and written again. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wintceas (talk • contribs) 21:41, 12 September 2015 (UTC)

I fully agree. In fact (I'm Dutch), if you read the Dutch "version" of the article, I'd say that should just be 1:1 translated into English instead of the absolute mess we have now. The Dutch one is just a short bio, with a small role that this man possibly played in the failure of Market Garden, one of so many reasons.

If you read this article now, especially the second paragraph of the introduction, it seems that this one man is singlehandedly responsible for prolonging WWII with six months and for Soviet control of Berlin (ao), making him essentially rank among like the top 50 most important historical figures of the 20th century (which is of course complete rubbish). 145.8.179.218 (talk) 12:56, 3 October 2024 (UTC)

possible insider source

There is a book calledItaliSpycatcherc text written by a Dutchman, who worked as the head of Dutch Counter-Intelligence Mission attached to the British organization. The author says that he was the one who got Verloop to confess and that he had sent an ignored message to have Lindemans under close watch. ( I don' know the author's name since my copy is a Russian English-learning book with no copyright information. )Kdammers (talk) 04:57, 27 November 2016 (UTC)

Orestes Pinto. 2601:647:5800:7D80:74F6:670F:DA7D:52A3 (talk) 08:42, 24 February 2022 (UTC)

Spy-catcher by Oreste Pinto is available to borrow on Archive.org DuncanHill (talk) 14:48, 24 February 2022 (UTC)

Russian connection

What are the primary sources for claiming Lindemans worked under Russian control? Mouseketeers (talk) 02:28, 8 October 2024 (UTC)