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Q 1: Why is this article separate from the article on Jesus?

A: This article deals with the Christian theological perspective of the Messiah and the role of Jesus as the divine Christ. Jesus is considered a prophet in Islam and is regarded as a messenger of God in the Bahá'í Faith, but these religions do not hold him to be the divine Christ (Messiah) as in Christianity. These are, therefore, separate topics.

Q 2: Why is this article not called "Jesus Christ", and why does that term not redirect here?

A: The term "Jesus Christ" usually refers to Jesus, as this article explains, and hence it redirects there.

Q 3: Does the lede image Christ Pantocrator from Saint Catherine's Monastery fit this article, and not favor some denomination over others?

A: That issue was addressed in this talk page discussion. The image dates to the 6th century and was painted 500 years before the major schism between the Eastern and Western churches. As that discussion indicated, it is quite neutral, a notable artistic work that is "quickly identifiable" with the subject of this article.

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Weasel words section edit

Latest comment: 2 years ago3 comments2 people in discussion

Per WP:WEASEL, I have tagged the "Symbols" section: The use of "Χ" as an abbreviation for “Christ” derives from the Greek letter Chi (χ), in the word Christós (Greek: Χριστός). In the abbreviation "Χmas" it has sometimes^[when?] been misinterpreted^{[by whom?]} as a modern secularization of the term, but the centuries-old English word Χmas is actually an English form of χ-mas, itself an abbreviation for Christ-mas. Christians are sometimes^[when?] referred to^{[by whom?]} as "Xians", with the 'X' replacing 'Christ'. Please do not remove maintenance tags without fixing the issues indicated and resolving them by consensus. Elizium23 (talk) 21:21, 22 June 2021 (UTC)Reply

I've removed the weasel words and added citations. Is there a consensus that the tags are no longer needed? Jpbrenna (talk) 03:01, 23 June 2021 (UTC)Reply

Jpbrenna, it's an improvement. There's one tag left. Elizium23 (talk) 04:58, 23 June 2021 (UTC)Reply

"Synonymous"? edit

Latest comment: 1 year ago3 comments2 people in discussion

The lede sentence says "Christ" is "synonymous" with "Jesus" for Christians. I don't know what the cited sources say, but I dispute this wording of "synonymous". "Jesus" as an Anglicized version of his Aramaic given name means one thing to me, and "Christ" as derived from a Greek term means another thing. They mean different things while referring to the same person, the same reality, the same concept, and they are mostly, usually interchangeable, but they are emphatically not "synonymous" because each one does indeed have distinct meanings and connotations. Elizium23 (talk) 21:32, 21 July 2022 (UTC)Reply

To your reversal edit summary, "human" as apposed to "divine". Ceoil (talk) 22:06, 21 July 2022 (UTC)Reply

To clarify, maybe the lead para should explain the difference in meaning between 'Jesus' and 'Christ'. Ceoil (talk) 22:11, 21 July 2022 (UTC)Reply

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