Talk:Chris Bowen
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"Opposition leader" all over the article...
editBowen is not and has not been leader of the opposition, parliament hasnt even resumed yet. Yes? Timeshift (talk) 06:21, 8 October 2013 (UTC)
- I don't think that parliament sitting or not has much to do with it. We have an unprecedented situation (for Australia) here, and I think it's worth waiting a while to see how the sources describe it. Will he be listed on the parliamentary website, etc? Frickeg (talk) 08:54, 8 October 2013 (UTC)
- Agree. Had Rudd won, Abbott stepped down and Turnbull was elected in his place, nobody would be questioning that he's the leader of the opposition, despite the parliament not sitting yet. -- Jack of Oz [pleasantries] 08:55, 9 October 2013 (UTC)
- There has been inconsistent use of the term "acting" when referring to Bowen's term as (acting) Leader of the Opposition for 31 days; the period in which the contest between Bill Shorten and Anthony Albanese was conducted. The term "acting" is sometimes used in the Wikipedia articles on Bowen, Shorten, Albanese, the Australian Labor Party, the Australian Labor Party leadership spill, October 2013, and, I am sure, other places. As caucus did not actually elect Bowen, my personal view is that he was "acting" leader, and not leader, but a definitive view would be welcome. I have replicated this discussion on the Labor Party talk page. As to the comment by User:JackofOz, there was no election of Bowen as leader. Rangasyd (talk) 09:22, 17 October 2013 (UTC)
- Maybe not in the sense I think you mean. But he didn't just announce of his own volition that he was the interim/acting leader. The caucus must have given its imprimatur in some way. -- Jack of Oz [pleasantries] 10:05, 17 October 2013 (UTC)
- I hear what you're saying. There is a good article from The Guardian, confirming his "appointment" here and a press conference video following his appointment here. I've been informed that the term used should be "Interim" leader; and that its use is consistent with the approach adopted in both the UK and NZ. Rangasyd (talk) 11:58, 17 October 2013 (UTC)
- Maybe not in the sense I think you mean. But he didn't just announce of his own volition that he was the interim/acting leader. The caucus must have given its imprimatur in some way. -- Jack of Oz [pleasantries] 10:05, 17 October 2013 (UTC)
- There has been inconsistent use of the term "acting" when referring to Bowen's term as (acting) Leader of the Opposition for 31 days; the period in which the contest between Bill Shorten and Anthony Albanese was conducted. The term "acting" is sometimes used in the Wikipedia articles on Bowen, Shorten, Albanese, the Australian Labor Party, the Australian Labor Party leadership spill, October 2013, and, I am sure, other places. As caucus did not actually elect Bowen, my personal view is that he was "acting" leader, and not leader, but a definitive view would be welcome. I have replicated this discussion on the Labor Party talk page. As to the comment by User:JackofOz, there was no election of Bowen as leader. Rangasyd (talk) 09:22, 17 October 2013 (UTC)
- Agree. Had Rudd won, Abbott stepped down and Turnbull was elected in his place, nobody would be questioning that he's the leader of the opposition, despite the parliament not sitting yet. -- Jack of Oz [pleasantries] 08:55, 9 October 2013 (UTC)
There is an RfC on the question of using "Religion: None" vs. "Religion: None (atheist)" in the infobox on this and other similar pages.
The RfC is at Template talk:Infobox person#RfC: Religion infobox entries for individuals that have no religion.
Please help us determine consensus on this issue. --Guy Macon (talk) 21:07, 23 April 2015 (UTC)
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Expanding political views section
editChris Bowen is a very significant figure in the Federal opposition, but in this article it appears that he has only one remarkable political view, which is about marriage, which is a matter that was dealt with a couple of years ago. It would be good to see some development of this article and explore some emerging views the subject has spoken about, for example the desire to see the ALP connect with faith communities, which he has called "an existential issue", or a stronger investment in the lives of older Australians, with what seems to be an ongoing commitment to free dental care, but also seems to be standing by neoliberal principles of free trade and high levels of immigration. Erasmus Sydney (talk) 12:16, 5 April 2020 (UTC)