Talk:Chipotle

Is chipotle this, or is it that?

In the lead-in, we see "A chipotle..., or chilpotle, which comes from the Nahuatl word chilpoctli (meaning "smoked chili"), is a smoke-dried jalapeño." Then we find "The red jalapeños are moved to a closed smoking chamber and... the chipotles have dried up in a manner akin to prunes or raisins." So far, so good. But then: "Other varieties of chilis are smoke-dried, including red jalapeños, serranos, habaneros,... Lesser-known varieties of smoked chilis include cobán, a piquín chile native to southern Mexico and Guatemala;..."

So what really is a chipotle? Just a smoke-dried chilli? 124.148.118.170 (talk) 10:55, 25 March 2015 (UTC)

jalapeño

The second paragraph starts out talking about jalapeños, yet the word is not mentioned in the first paragraph. A tie-in is needed.Kdammers (talk) 19:00, 5 December 2015 (UTC)

Dressing

I went to an American fast-food place and was as asked if I wanted chipotle dressing. When I asked what it was, I was told that it was a kind of (or like) mayonnaise dressing. I don't know if this is a use of the word that is wide-spread enough to include or if it's just something the chain uses. Kdammers (talk) 19:03, 5 December 2015 (UTC)

Chipotle dressing is a salad dressing flavored with chipotle peppers, very popular, and, imo, very tasty. I don't see the problem.Rags (talk) 01:56, 31 October 2016 (UTC)

Chihuahua

In section 2, "Varieties," the second link, "Chihuahua," is marked a dead link. As far as I can tell, the link works fine. I have attempted to remove the [dead link] label, but have not succeeded. There are lots of tricks I've yet to learn about wiki-markup. Maybe someone could fix this. Thanks. Rags (talk) 02:04, 31 October 2016 (UTC)

Edit war

The addition of the text: "Chipotle is usually pronounced 'chi-poht-lay', however regional differences exist. In the Humberside region of England, UK, chipotle is pronounced 'chip-pot-ler'(punc)" has been added and reverted four times by Emma Taylor. In my opinion this is irrelevant, and unsourced. Stereotyping the English - It's very common for them to (deliberately?) mis-pronounce words from other languages. Examples would be putting the emPHAsis on the wrong syllABLE, changing the letter 'r' to an 'h' or 'w' and adding an 'r' at the end of words where it doesn't belong. Emma: are you really so proud of the ignorance/illiteracy of some of your countrymen that you want to brag about it on Wikipedia? Does this improve the article? Senor Cuete (talk) 15:47, 22 March 2017 (UTC)

Now it has been added and deleted FIVE times. Sysops how about a block? Senor Cuete (talk) 23:55, 22 March 2017 (UTC)

The IP addresses used for this appear to be used only for vandalism. Sysops, how about a block? Senor Cuete (talk) 02:13, 23 March 2017 (UTC)

Multiple IPs, most seem to be single-use/hit-and-run, so blocking each would not solve the problem going forward. Instead, I semi-protected it for a week. DMacks (talk) 02:46, 23 March 2017 (UTC)

She is back apparently. Falconjh (talk) 16:43, 7 April 2017 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 25 March 2017

Please add the German language: https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jalape%C3%B1o#Ger.C3.A4ucherte_Jalape.C3.B1os_.E2.80.93_Chipotles 2A02:908:F359:9B00:F0D4:C756:2E7:C5EF (talk) 15:43, 25 March 2017 (UTC)

Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format. -- Dane ^talk 20:21, 26 March 2017 (UTC)

I tihk this is a request to add an interwiki link to a section of the German article as they do not have a separate article on chipotle. However this is not possible with the way the software works. Rmhermen (talk) 00:19, 12 December 2017 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 15 March 2018

The Nāhuatl pronunciation guide for the word “chilpoctli” (when referring to the origin of the word) should be [t͡ʃiːlˈpoːkt͡ɬi] instead of the current [t͡ʃiːlˈpoːct͡ɬi], i.e. the the <c> in the transcription should be written <k>. Furthermore, there should be added macrons to the first and the <o> in "chilpoctli" to represent the long vowels. In short, "[t͡ʃiːlˈpoːct͡ɬi]" should be "[t͡ʃiːlˈpoːkt͡ɬi]", and "chilpoctli" should be written "chīlpōctli". Cawlo (talk) 12:18, 15 March 2018 (UTC)

 Not done: As they would say in Denmark: Jeg er ked af det, men dit forslag afvises. Venligst angiv referencer. Spintendo      16:43, 15 March 2018 (UTC)

That's a misguided rejection. The Wikipedia edit guidelines above require you to assume good faith. Cawlo obviously knows what he's talking about. Unless you have knowledge of Nahuatl (which is a little different to Danish) then you shouldn't be making smug remarks and demanding evidence. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dena.walemy (talk • contribs) 13:43, 18 July 2020 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 17 March 2018

Please change the phonetic transcription [t͡ʃiːlˈpoːct͡ɬi] to [t͡ʃiːɬˈpoːkt͡ɬi], since the former was incorrect. Please change the Nāhuatl spelling of the word "chilpoctli" to "chīlpōctli" to reflect the long vowels. Cawlo (talk) 18:35, 17 March 2018 (UTC)

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Eggishorn (talk) (contrib) 17:37, 18 March 2018 (UTC)

Production section marketing

The last paragraph of the Production section devolves into an advertisement, and should be cleaned up. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jguttenburg (talk • contribs) 06:28, 2 January 2020 (UTC)

chipotle is dryed jalapeño, not morita that is a fake mis labeled chipotle

The dried (and smoked) jalapeño chile is called chipotle, it has a brown opaque colour. There is a variant of the same colour with longitudinal lines, that is the chipotle meco variant.

The merchants cheat us selling very hot morita chiles labeling as chipotle, but that is wrong. The same happen with chile de árbol (tree chile), the authentic chile is large and thin, but some times they lablel other thicker chiles, maybe of serrano kind as chle de arbol. The piquín chile is also substituted by other similar chiles, is a common dishonest practice tolerated by authorities.

The normal morita chile (not too hot) is sell morita and is tasty too but very different form chipotle. I suppose that the very hot variety is a genetically modified variety over expressing the gene that produces capsaicyn, some stupid biotechnologists are doing those cases to patent chiles, generating not edible products.

Essentially the information in this page doesn't match the everyday experience in Mexico. We often complain of that commerce malpractice. Please don't ask me "a reliable citation", I know it because I live it everyday. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2806:107E:C:3CB5:BC5F:21AC:29E9:413E (talk) 04:41, 27 March 2020 (UTC)

Chipocludo is slang! ha ha ha ha!

Some person is chipocludo a member of the elite. Is slang, also said chipocles. Some times people refer to dishes or chiles as chipocludos just as a joke, of funny name for a dish, for example albódigas chipocludas, for meatballs (albóndibas) in a tomato sauce with chipotle chile. Those chiles are eaten all the year to season many dishes like tortas (french bread sandwiches), chicken broth, specially if prepared en panela o en adobo (with vinager, carrots, spices, herbs and panela, the dark brown sugar), you may buy those canned in the US supermarkets. Also in other kind of liquid sauce not sweet, with shrimps and other sea food, or many other meals.

Be aware of what you are saying about chiles, because the mexicans are propense to say puns of sexual connotation, known as albures, and a chile is a phallic reference. That is not the case with chipocludo, but put attention on that. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2806:107E:C:3CB5:BC5F:21AC:29E9:413E (talk) 05:00, 27 March 2020 (UTC)

Heat

The last sentence in the lede claims that chipotles are about the same heat as guajillos and tabasco sauce.

That is a pretty unhelpful guide to the hotness of a chipotle. Guajillos are extremely mild, and confer more redness than heat; tabasco sauce, on the other hand, is supplied in a bottle about twice the size of a single chipotle, and is used in quantities measured in droplets. Chipotles are much hotter than guajillos, and much milder than tabasco sauce.

The claim is cited to some firewalled academic paper (a WP:PRIMARY source), and the abstract doesn't mention any other type of chili than chipotle (the article proper is firewalled, but evidently isn't primarily about the comparative heat of different types of chili).

I propose to remove this claim.

MrDemeanour (talk) 04:30, 18 February 2022 (UTC)

An academic paper is not a primary source. RiverCityRelay (talk) 06:34, 18 February 2022 (UTC)

Additionally, it makes no sense for you to propose the removal of information while openly admitting you haven't even read the source cited. RiverCityRelay (talk) 06:42, 18 February 2022 (UTC)

Yes, academic papers are secondary sources. The article is available here. It's a good idea to search on Google Scholar for articles, as there's often PDFs of paywalled articles available from the researchers' university websites or Academia or Researchgate accounts. OsFish (talk) 06:50, 18 February 2022 (UTC)

Thanks for the link, I've now examined the article.

The article doesn't mention guajillos or tabascco sauce; it can't therefore be used to support the claim that chipotles are about the same heat as guajillos and tabasco sauce (a claim which anyone who's cooked with all three will immediately recognise as false).

So I still want to delete that claim.

MrDemeanour (talk)

Chipolte - correct spelling

Lesser known history is when McDonalds changed the spelling from Chipolte to Chipotle. Madison Avenue staffers believed the change would support higher sales in midwest where words ending in ‘olte’ statistically fared worse on store shelves. 2601:183:487F:A660:2CC4:EAC1:D8DC:A6B1 (talk) 11:25, 1 August 2023 (UTC)