Talk:Chinese cartography
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 | On 12 September 2022, it was proposed that this article be moved from Chinese geography to Chinese cartography. The result of the discussion was moved. |
Article expansion
editThe section on the Yuan dynasty is good enough, I suppose, although the article rather drops off a cliff after that. Template:Chinese_maps has some good sources for article expansion, particularly related to Zheng He and Matteo Ricci and their impact on China. "China's First Knowledge of the Americas" by L. Carrington Goodrich answered some questions I would've liked to have seen answered here, and "China's Opposition to Western Science during Late Ming and Early Ch'ing" by George H. C. Wong at jstor also has quite a bit about Chinese officials' rather pointed refusal to learn decent geography on principle and its motivation. — LlywelynII 09:54, 12 October 2012 (UTC)
Proposed name change
editWould it not be better to title this page Chinese cartography?Bodha2 (talk) 10:41, 24 December 2017 (UTC)
Requested move 12 September 2022
edit- The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
The result of the move request was: moved. (closed by non-admin page mover) Elli (talk | contribs) 23:26, 26 September 2022 (UTC)
Chinese geography → Chinese cartography – A title 'Chinese cartography' would better reflect the scope of the article (see also a topic above). And 'Chinese geography' should redirect Geography of China. Privybst (talk) 07:37, 12 September 2022 (UTC) — Relisting. – robertsky (talk) 16:17, 19 September 2022 (UTC)
- Oppose. "Cartography" narrowly refers to maps and the craft of map-making, usually navigational. Most of these entries are "geographies" in the classical sense, i.e. books with geographical knowledge, not maps. The article is correctly worded - geographical knowledge and works of and by Chinese authors is "Chinese geography". Just like "Chinese astronomy", "Chinese science", etc. Walrasiad (talk) 02:01, 13 September 2022 (UTC)
- Support per nom. Virtually the entire article prose, save for a few vague sentences in the lead, is devoted to map-making, i.e. cartography. By the way, I hate those context-free lists as in the "Highlights" section - either fill it up with prose, or move to a List of Chinese geographers. No such user (talk) 13:33, 15 September 2022 (UTC)
- Note: WikiProject China has been notified of this discussion. – robertsky (talk) 16:17, 19 September 2022 (UTC)
- Support per nom. In ictu oculi (talk) 17:53, 19 September 2022 (UTC)
- Support per nom and per No such user above. "Chinese geography" indeed sounds like it should be about the geography of China, not its mapmaking. BD2412 T 06:54, 22 September 2022 (UTC)