Talk:Chick Corea

Light as a Feather

Light as a Feather - 1972 or 1973? The official discography says 1973. Fredrik Johansson - talk - contribs 23:44, 27 January 2006 (UTC) It was probably recorded in 1972 and released in 1973. There are other sources besides that one. See allmusic.com --Dogru144

The Ultimate Adventure

His new cd, also inspired by a work of L. Ron Hubbard is will be released soon. He is currently promoting it. This should be included in the article. His current quintet is called "Touchstone"

"Current"

You shouldn't use the word 'current' in an encyclopaedia - this 'current' project you speak of is already dated. Corea is touring with a new group already (april 2006).

Scientology references

I think the Scientology reference needs to be stripped back, it's practically an advertisement for this religion/cult, one that is quite controversial and much maligned (not without due cause). Is this an item about a musician and his career? if so his religious leanings should not be given so much emphasis. Corea talks about ethics, what sort of code of ethics does "fair game" attempt to embrace: Fair Game (Scientology) Hubbard detailed his rules for attacking critics in a number of policy letters, including one often quoted by critics as "the Fair Game policy." This allowed that those who had been declared enemies of the Church, called "suppressive persons" or simply "SP," "May be deprived of property or injured by any means... May be tricked, sued or lied to or destroyed." (taken from HCOPL 18 Oct 67 Issue IV, Penalties for Lower Conditions )

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientology_controversy —Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.210.3.163 (talk • contribs) on 22 August 2006

Since your comment in August 2006, the Scientology/Inspiration section has become slightly more neutral. As it stands now, I don't think it's an advertisement for Scientology. It only details how Corea (in his own words) feels Scientology has inspired him. It's irrelevant to this article that you and I might think Scientology is a questionable religion/cult/moneymaking scheme with an alarming lack of scruples. Corea's advocacy of Scientology is notable, especially when Scientology is a big influence on his music. -kotra 22:48, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

Discography

The official SonyBMG Masterworks discography link for this artist is as follows

• Discography at SonyBMG Masterworks

It (in most cases) contains a full listing of in-print CDs released on the SonyBMG labels within the US (for the moment), along with track listings and in some cases audio clips (which will become more robust in the new year). Ecommerce links are provided inobtrusively.

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Sourced Joe Farrell remark

Someone has put back in the unsourced Joe Farrell remark I deleted, this time with a dead link in support of it. It's coming out. S. M. Sullivan 03:30, 27 February 2007 (UTC)

Someone put back the sourced Joe Farrell remark you deleted because by Wikipedia policy you shouldn't have deleted it in the first place. It has gone back in, both because there was no reason to take it out and because that "dead" link is quite alive and well. -- Antaeus Feldspar 17:41, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

Like Minds

I fixed the link to the album Like Minds, because it redirected to the movie of the same name. Jollyjoegiant 01:56, 2 March 2007 (UTC)

Problem in Jazz Fusion

The second paragraph has a distorted comparison with Mahevishnu Orchestra. While Chick did place more emphasis on synthesizers, the Mahevishnu Orchestra far from shunned virtuosity. A lot of Mahevishnu tracks are little other than long John McLaughlin solos, where he played mostly fast notes. You understate your case significantly, both in what you mention, and how you state it. McLaughlin was not only fast, but, more importantly, versitile. Fast could refer to heavy metal power note shreds. McLaughlin is considered by many to be 1 of the best guitarists who ever lived, period. Should be changed.

other inspirations:

Not all coreas output is hubbard/scientology related (@ least not directly). I know for certain that First He Cries, then He Sings refers to a line from the I-Ching.Thaddeus Slamp 19:17, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

The Best of Chick Corea

Why doesn't the discography mention the 1993 CD "Best of Chick Corea"? [http://www.amazon.com/Best-Chick-Corea/dp/B000005HDZ] Enk 22:02, 29 April 2007 (UTC)

Discography

The discography has been reinstated as the seperate discography page is a shoddy,woefully-incomplete page Paul210 18:07, 18 May 2007 (UTC)

I have redirected the separate discography article to Chick Corea#Discography --Mysdaao 20:40, 27 May 2007 (UTC)

Cuban Roots album

In 1967 Chick Corea played on Cuban Roots, a cuban/jazz instrumental experiment put together by Mark Weinstein. Due to a personal dispute the record company sunk the album and only 500 copies were made. A few years ago a Japanese company bought the master tapes and reissued the album on CD. Its a great album and has enjoyed a successful second life. The album focuses on horns and drums, but Corea's piano playing on the album is phenomenal. I think the album is worth mentioning. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.106.194.122 (talk) 22:21, 12 October 2007 (UTC)

Source - The Salt Lake Tribune

• Burger, David (2008-05-29). "Sounds like they've been together forever: Jazz-fusion giants pick up where they left off three decades ago". The Salt Lake Tribune. Retrieved 2008-05-30.

Good source of info for this article. `Cirt (talk)

The street outside the high school is named for him, Chick Corea Way

got lost in Chelsea learned something, lol.

Needs referencing improvements

This article needs major referencing and POV improvements. There are unsourced, direct quotations from BLPs. There are unsourced, POV assertions, given as if they were facts (and in some cases blatantly inaccurate) lacking citations. There is inaccurate info, such as "due to be released in August 2009...". -- Cirt (talk) 17:30, 8 July 2010 (UTC)

Trimmed down size of external links sect

• Interview with Chick Corea by Michael J Stewart
• Herzig, Monika (October 1999). Chick Corea - A Style Analysis
• Polydor Promo 1/73 (from The Boston Music Encyclopedia Project)
• All Music Guide to Jazz - 4th Edition, Backbeat Books, November 1, 2002, ISBN 0-87930-717-X
• DeBarros, Paul (1998). "Reissuing Light as a Feather", Light as a Feather CD booklet
• Nicholson, Stuart (1999). "Reissuing My Spanish Heart", My Spanish Heart CD booklet
• Zwerin, Mike (February 2, 2000). Chick Corea: The Chameleon
• Murph, John (December 2, 2004). Chick Corea Reaching for the Stars. BET Jazz.
• Digital Interviews: Chick Corea (1999)
• Talking to Les Tomkins in 1972. Jazz Professional.
• Chick Corea's 1997 Commencement Address to the Berklee College of Music
• An Interview with Chick Corea by Bob Rosenbaum, July 1974 (PDF file) 'You put these notes together and you come out with that sound, and isn’t it beautiful. So what? What does it do to another person? What does it do to your neighborhood?'
• New England Jazz History Database
• "In Conversation with Chick Corea" by Patrick Spurling, (Jazz.com)
• "Return to Forever: Twelve Historic Tracks" by Walter Kolosky,

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Trimmed down size of external links sect. The above links might be useful in the future, to incorporate directly into the article, as sources. -- Cirt (talk) 17:56, 11 July 2010 (UTC)

Seriously guys, how the heck is Chick Corea's Wikipidia article rated in the "b class" of importance. If anything, his article should be high priority. He should be in the a class. And why the heck is he in class b for Latin American articles??!?!?! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sprecher (talk • contribs) 04:09, 30 November 2010 (UTC)

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Collaboration with Lil Wayne & Jay-Z

This article implies that Corea worked with Lil Wayne ten years before Lil Wayne was born. There is a tacked on sentence that may be spam mentioning Jay-Z as well. Jwhester (talk) 03:36, 14 January 2013 (UTC)

Link redirect

I suggest that the link: "Verve Records Archived October 13, 2007 at the Wayback Machine" go straight to the URL to which it redirects: http://vervemusicgroup.com/chickcorea. Can I make the change, or can someone do it? Thanks.Matipop (talk) 23:43, 11 April 2013 (UTC)

Change photo.

Can someone please change his photo I don't think it represents how people see chick Corea now. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.193.122.12 (talk) 15:14, 22 February 2014 (UTC)

Agreed. That's a godawful photo. I saw him in concert the other day and he looks nothing like this anymore. -timothyapetty — Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.243.129.143 (talk) 21:31, 22 April 2014 (UTC)

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date of marriage

I tagged this for a Reliable Source; also 1972 seems far too early - in 1976, Al DiMeola and Lenny White both said Moran was Corea's "girlfriend", not wife. I've read elsewhere they met some time after she had joined John McLaughlin's band, which was around 1974. 104.169.45.63 (talk) 11:47, 4 January 2019 (UTC)

Merge proposal

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section. A summary of the conclusions reached follows.

No consensus. Excelsiorsbanjo (talk) 21:23, 11 February 2021 (UTC)

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I propose that Chick Corea Elektric Band be merged into Chick Corea. The former has been unsourced since 2009, and that's plenty of time to realize it isn't going anywhere. It's unnecessary to have separate articles for all the bands a jazz musician forms or belongs to.
–Vmavanti (talk) 23:35, 14 April 2020 (UTC)

• Merge - As the article is so long, only few parts of the band article should be merged in. Either way, the band is notable and has been unsourced since 2009. Koridas ^talk? 06:23, 18 June 2020 (UTC)
• Merge. Agreed. EddieHugh (talk) 20:05, 27 June 2020 (UTC)

Merge ? Are you nuts ?--79.93.72.97 (talk) 18:16, 10 September 2020 (UTC)

• Do Not Merge, the very idea is ridiculous. G41rn8 (talk) 04:39, 3 October 2020 (UTC)
• Do Not Merge - Absolutely notable enough to have its own article. Major output and many live tours from this band over several years. Yes, the article has been a mess forever, but the fact that no one has taken it on doesn't mean it should be merged and reduced to an inadequate paragraph or two on Chick's article. RandomGnome (talk) 07:11, 28 November 2020 (UTC)
• Do Not Merge - the band complies with the criteria WP:BAND for notability. TanookiKoopa (talk) 18:55, 1 January 2021 (UTC)

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G41rn8, RandomGnome and TanookiKoopa: you all rejected the idea of merging, yet the article remains unsourced. Are you going to add some sources? (They should be easy to find at the moment.) EddieHugh (talk) 19:47, 13 February 2021 (UTC)

EddieHugh Are you? I thought we were building an encyclopedia, not deleting one. TanookiKoopa (talk) 21:53, 13 February 2021 (UTC)

Merging isn't deleting. I'm asking because, if no one adds sources, I'm going to clean the article up, which will probably mean removing everything except a sentence or two that I can quickly find a source for (with my usual WP:BURDEN edit summary for such circumstances). It's been in this unencyclopedic state for over a decade! EddieHugh (talk) 22:00, 13 February 2021 (UTC)

EddieHugh I added an "under construction" tag. I'll add the sources. I'm impressed by the fact that you'd rather clean the article up than add sources yourself :) TanookiKoopa (talk) 23:30, 13 February 2021 (UTC)

EddieHugh If sources are now piling up that are easy to find, then why don't you add them yourself instead of pouncing on the article with a cudgel because no one else has done it within an arbitrary time limit? Seems to run against the spirit of our objective here, if you ask me. RandomGnome (talk) 23:51, 13 February 2021 (UTC)

Thanks, TanookiKoopa (I said I'd both add sources and clean it up – i.e. get rid of the rest). RandomGnome: how long do you think it's ok to leave an article with no sources and with an embarrassing template at the top? More than 11 years? There's only one person I know who's done more than I have to reduce the jazz project's backlog in the last few years, and that's Vmavanti, who proposed the merge here. It would be good to get more people actively involved in that, and the people who supported keeping this as a separate article seem like a logical place to start. EddieHugh (talk) 12:42, 14 February 2021 (UTC)

EddieHugh I agree that it is far too long, and I thank you very much for your contributions to the jazz project. Jazz often doesn't get the respect it deserves. Case in point - there's now the bizarre situation of having to fight to get Chick Corea mentioned on WP:ITNRD (front page, recent deaths), his nomination likely to fail because the article doesn't meet some tightly interpreted, bureaucratic threshold. I don't want to belabor our disagreement over who should add sources, other than to refer you to my previous comment. Again, thank you for your work here. RandomGnome (talk) 18:23, 14 February 2021 (UTC)

EddieHugh I just added citations. Is this to your satisfaction for removing the tag? TanookiKoopa (talk) 22:13, 14 February 2021 (UTC)

It was a useful start. Almost none of the commentary in the article was in the sources that you added, though, so I cut most of it and added sources/a small amount of detail from AllMusic. I've removed the sourcing tag but left the under construction one in case you're planning more – please remove it if you're not. EddieHugh (talk) 19:30, 15 February 2021 (UTC)

EddieHugh Thank you. I removed the tag. Hope you can also find the time to add to the page too. TanookiKoopa (talk) 16:52, 19 February 2021 (UTC)

Early career

The text on his early professional career isn't perhaps as complete as it might be. In early 1962 it was reported that Chick was performing with the George Bright Quintet. I have included details in my post here, I'll leave those of you more familiar with Chick/Wikipedia to decide if a change is warranted.[1] — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cathcam (talk • contribs) 21:37, 14 February 2021 (UTC)

Yes, should have signed the above comment, my apologies. I can provide direct links to sources if needed.Cathcam (talk) 20:52, 15 February 2021 (UTC)

At the least, it would need proper source; see WP:RS for more information on those. Is there a reason this particular tidbit is notable and should be included? Lester Mobley (talk) 02:34, 16 February 2021 (UTC)

Thanks User:Lester Mobley. I've created a clipping for the report on newspapers.comhttps://www.newspapers.com/clip/70452357/chick-corea-feb-11th-1962/ which should be accessible by those who do not have an account. That should suffice for as a reputable source. Why should it be included? It's clear from a number of other references, and reports on newspapers.com that Chick spent time before he is generally perceived to doing professional work, working the circuit. Chick himself has said he worked along side his Dad for a while, but then jumps over what happened next. As I wrote in my retrospective of Chick's early years, this period is always overlooked, as it is here, it's just assumed/implied that he got his professional start recording with Mongo Santamaria after moving on from gigging with his dad.--Cathcam (talk) 01:17, 17 February 2021 (UTC)

Thanks for the source, Cathcam. What it supports is that Corea played with Bright in 1962, but I don't see the point of adding such a sentence if we don't have any other context for it, and we don't have a page on Bright. The phrasing "began his professional career" does not quite represent the AMG biography; maybe that can be adjusted to avoid suggesting that these were his first professional jobs, rather than "formative experiences" as AMG has it. Lester Mobley (talk) 22:29, 18 February 2021 (UTC)

"People of Sicilian descent" category

Why did someone add the "People of Sicilian descent" category when the article doesn't say Corea has Sicilian heritage? What is the source for this? 173.88.246.138 (talk) 05:11, 27 November 2022 (UTC)

Chicken or egg?

"Named after their eponymous 1972 album, Corea's Return to Forever band..."

Surely the album was named after the band, not the other way around? Pgilman (talk) 12:42, 6 October 2024 (UTC)