Talk:Chestnut Street District

District boundaries

These are the detailed boundaries of this district, based on the maps in the National Register nomination:

• eastern: the middle of North and Summer Streets between Federal Street (north side properties included) and the southeastern corner of the Broad Street cemetery
• northern: the northern properties of Federal Street between Summer and Flint Streets, plus all properties on Lynn, River, and Andover Streets
• western: the middle of Flint Street (excluding west side properties) from Federal Street (north side properties included) to Essex Street, then south to Warren Street including the west side properties of Flint Street
• southern: the middle of Warren Street to Pickering Street, then south along the middle of Pickering to Broad; along the middle of Broad to Winthrop; along the middle of Winthrop to the southwest corner of Broad Street Cemetery; along southern boundary of cemetery to Summer Street

These boundaries exclude properties on the east side of Summer and North Streets, such as the Shepard Block, West Cogswell House, Wesley Church, and John Peabody House. The Gedney House on High Street is a block away on the wrong side of Summer Street. I have removed reference to these properties from the article. Magic♪piano 21:51, 10 January 2014 (UTC)

Recent "technical move"

@Anthony Appleyard: The "technical move" of this article to another name appears to have been done on the flimsiest of evidence. Did the requesting user (with almost no previous edit history) actually cite any relevant documents, or merely assert that they existed? I ask, because I have looked high and low for a formal description of the "McIntire Historic District" and not found one. As far as I can tell it is a superset of the "Chestnut Street District" and "Federal Street District" (separate listings on the National Register), but I've seen no city or local historical body documents that actually describe its bounds formally. This article is about a National Register-listed district, not a local construction, whose bounds are described in detail in the preceding section. Magic♪piano 21:08, 11 July 2017 (UTC)

• @Magicpiano: I have reverted the move. Arco5986 added the request at 19:35, 10 July 2017 inside a comment, and at 20:06, 10 July 2017‎ Amakuru moved it to the right place. Should I start a move request? Anthony Appleyard (talk) 21:35, 11 July 2017 (UTC)

I don't think a move request is warranted. The real questions are content related: (1) what are the actual bounds of the "McIntire Historic District", and (2) do the coincide sufficiently with the "Chestnut Street District" to warrant there being one article for both (at which point a discussion can be had about what to call it), or do they differ sufficiently that they should have separate articles? The user who requested this move is invited to weigh in here. As far as I can tell the "McIntire Historic District" is somewhat larger. Magic♪piano 21:41, 11 July 2017 (UTC)

Resources on district names and differences

Here are a few resources that discuss or outline the scope of the "Chestnut Street District" and the "McIntire Historic District"

• National Register nomination for Chestnut Street District (1971); this and the 1978 increase both include detailed maps
• National Register nomination for Chestnut Street District (1978 boundary increase); this increase added portions of Lynn and River Streets to the north side of the district
• National Park Service walking tour of the "McIntire Historic District"; this walking tour covers areas not included in the Chestnut Street District
• Salem Historical Society Resource Page; this page explicitly references the McIntire and Chestnut districts as separate entities
• Salem Historic Society Local Historic District map (PDF); this map shows the bounds of the McIntire district, as including a much larger area than the Chestnut district
• Salem Historic Society National Register District map (PDF); comparing this map to the previous reveals that McIntire district includes (in addition to all of the Chestnut Street District) all of the Federal Street District, all of the NR Crombie Street District, and part of the NR Downtown Salem District. It also includes a number of properties individually listed on the National Register (for example, those excluded from the Chestnut district that are listed in the first section above).
• McIntire Historic District at SalemWeb This website is not affiliated with the city; it describes the McIntire district as a superset of the Chestnut and other districts.

By appearances, the Chestnut Street District constitutes between 1/2 and 2/3 of the McIntire Historic District. Magic♪piano 13:46, 12 July 2017 (UTC)

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