Talk:Charles Xavier (film character)

Xavier's death in Multiverse of Madness

Starting this thread since my edit got reverted. Wanda did not just snap Xavier's neck, she tore his head from his jaw, which is easy to miss due to how fast the scene happened.

The actual scene slowed down for reference: https://twitter.com/house0fwanda/status/1523499748866539520

Would be open to suggestions as to how we move forward with correcting this segment. The boss 1904 (talk) 07:44, 17 May 2022 (UTC)

Ah. I originally thought this was Wanda snapped Xavier's neck, not tearing his head from his jaw. You're free to restore the correct way Wanda killed him. – SirDot (talk) 12:19, 17 May 2022 (UTC)

I'm not sure that it's clear. In any case, she killed him as a projection in her mind, so whatever the means were, they were basically symbolic. BD2412 T 20:05, 17 May 2022 (UTC)

Requested move 6 June 2022

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: no consensus. There is a consensus that the crux of this RM is whether there are separate X-Men films vs. MCU versions of these characters. If they are separate, the page may be moved to allow distinguishing between MCU and pre-MCU film counterparts. If they are the same, no move would be necessary.

As it turns out, this question clearly cannot be be resolved by the RM process. When you see the exact same policy cited by both evenly-split sides as supporting them, you've got an unbreakable deadlock. (closed by non-admin page mover) — Ceso femmuin mbolgaig mbung, mellohi! (投稿) 04:00, 2 July 2022 (UTC)

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• Charles Xavier (film character) → Charles Xavier (X-Men film series)
• Jean Grey (film character) → Jean Grey (X-Men film series)
• Logan (film character) → Logan (X-Men film series)

– Now that the X-Men is in the MCU, it is proper to distinguish their appearances. Showiecz (talk) 07:54, 6 June 2022 (UTC)— Relisting. Spekkios (talk) 01:28, 23 June 2022 (UTC)

• Support: While the characters other than Charles Xavier appearing in the MCU might be WP:CRYSTAL right now, there is precedent in other franchises to disambiguate live-action adaptations against the original comic book characters with the film series/franchise name (Tony Stark (Marvel Cinematic Universe) against Iron Man, Diana Prince (DC Extended Universe) against Wonder Woman). Such a dab is more specific and eliminates the potential future problems with other film adaptations of the characters. 2001:8F8:172B:4994:61A2:8A5A:246F:4CAF (talk) 10:14, 6 June 2022 (UTC)
• Oppose, this doesn't seem like an improvement. For Xavier would probably need another article with other appearances, including the MCU portrayal, even though they're played by the same actor. Also it is canonically unclear if they're even separate characters. For the other two, this is less concise. The current status quo and the article seem fine as they are, with no clear benefit from the change. --Cerebral726 (talk) 17:34, 6 June 2022 (UTC)

• When it is unclear, the default is that they are not per WP:CRYSTAL. Gonnym (talk) 20:29, 6 June 2022 (UTC)

It is very canonically clear that 838 Xavier and XCU Xavier are different characters. HaydenTCEM (talk) 16:27, 28 March 2024 (UTC)

• Comment – @Showiecz: I don't think it was appropriate to start another RM discussion here when this one at Talk:Magneto (Marvel Comics) is still ongoing. We should wait for the outcome of that discussion (i.e. whether Magneto (film character) is moved to Magneto (X-Men film series)) before starting a new discussion for the other X-Men film characters. I voted oppose for the Magneto (film character) move there on the grounds of WP:CONSISTENT, which would no longer apply if this discussion is closed as moved. InfiniteNexus (talk) 20:43, 6 June 2022 (UTC)
• Support. The disambiguator should be the franchise's/series' name, which is just that. Neocorelight (Talk) 22:26, 6 June 2022 (UTC)
• Support per nom and WP:CONSISTENCY, e.g. Elsa (Disney) not Elsa (character). cookie monster 755 04:17, 22 June 2022 (UTC)
• Oppose per Neocorelight and WP:CONSISTENCY — he is the only version of Xavier adapted to film, not franchise-specific. It can be renamed if a new version of Xavier with a new continuity completely otherwise unrelated to previous versions is made in the future. 89.19.88.39 (talk) 18:30, 29 June 2022 (UTC)
• Oppose per the above. Since the MCU has gone the multiverse route, we should wait and see whether some definitive distinction is made to differentiate any new versions from the X-Men film series versions before moving anything. BD2412 T 18:51, 1 July 2022 (UTC)
• Oppose. Xavier is the sole adaptation of the character in film, and is not specific to one franchise anymore, so the "X-Men film series" disambig would be misleading to readers looking for the MCU version also present in the article. Ignoring any potential of other X-Men characters in the MCU, it is not extremely necessary to specify that these are for the X-Men film series as there are no other characters of these names in other film series, and these are prominent film characters, with that disambig providing enough distinction from any other articles of similar names. Trailblazer101 (talk) 02:05, 2 July 2022 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.