Talk:Charles MacCarthy (British Army officer)

Requested move 14 November 2019

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The result of the move request was: Consensus to move Charles MacCarthy (governor) → Charles MacCarthy (British Army officer) and to point the resulting redirect at the former page to the disambiguation page Charles McCarthy. (closed by non-admin page mover) SITH (talk) 11:02, 4 December 2019 (UTC)

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Charles MacCarthy (governor) → Charles MacCarthy (military governor) – Charles Justin MacCarthy was also a governor; the distinguishing factors between them are that the first Charles MacCarthy was a military governor in Africa, and the second was a civil governor in British Ceylon. Further disambiguation is required. Note that there was also a Charles J. McCarthy who was a territorial governor of Hawaii. BD2412 T 05:13, 14 November 2019 (UTC) —Relisting. SITH (talk) 11:31, 26 November 2019 (UTC)

• Move to Charles MacCarthy (British Army officer). The usual disambiguator for British Army officers, which was his main career. -- Necrothesp (talk) 10:52, 21 November 2019 (UTC)
  • I have no objection to that outcome. BD2412 T 23:19, 22 November 2019 (UTC)
• @BD2412 and Necrothesp: I was about to close this as "consensus to move Charles MacCarthy (governor) → Charles MacCarthy (British Army officer)" but reading over the nomination again I've realised there's still discussion to be had about the fate of the redirect Charles MacCarthy (governor). Would it be best to:

1. turn said redirect into a disambiguation page and list all of those named in the nomination there
2. redirect it to Charles McCarthy (which is the disambiguation page redirected to by Charles MacCarthy (disambiguation)) and modify that disambiguation page accordingly
3. leave it as a redirect to one of the governors named Charles MacCarthy, in which case a primary topic discussion will need to be had?

I'll relist it but please feel free to ping me back when the discussion is done. SITH (talk) 11:31, 26 November 2019 (UTC)

The second option is the only workable option. The first is not permitted under WP:INCOMPDAB, and the third would require that it be possible to demonstrate a primary topic at all, which really can't be done for figures as obscure as these subjects. BD2412 T 12:00, 26 November 2019 (UTC)

Agreed. -- Necrothesp (talk) 12:45, 26 November 2019 (UTC)

• Support Charles MacCarthy (governor) → Charles MacCarthy (British Army officer) as well as redirecting incomplete disambiguation Charles MacCarthy (governor) to the Charles McCarthy dab page per nomination and Necrothesp. —Roman Spinner (talk • contribs) 21:50, 26 November 2019 (UTC)

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Suicide?

This article asserts that this guy committed suicide rather than dying in action -

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cape_Coast_Castle

Citing this source -

[14] Halik Kochanski Sir Garnet Wolseley: Victorian Hero 1999 - Page 61 1852851880 "The British governor, Sir James McCarthy, was defeated by the Asante army, committed suicide, and his skull was sent back to the Asante capital Kumasi where it was used as a drinking cup.1" 78.145.120.116 (talk) 21:38, 1 September 2022 (UTC)