Talk:Charles Coughlin/Archive 2

Archive 1

Archive 2

Lead sentence rewrite per MOSBIO

Usually we see nationality, occupation, and reason for notability in the fist sentence of the lead section. Where the subject is located is not included there unless it is "related" to the subject's notability. Maybe the lead sentence could be, Father Coughlin, was a Canadian-American Catholic priest who was the founding priest of the National Shrine of the Little Flower.? Or add something else to the sentence? Malerooster (talk) 03:37, 8 July 2023 (UTC)

Silenced?

In Radio Broadcaster : Radio Audience, it says this: Kennedy worked with Roosevelt, Bishop Francis Spellman and Cardinal Eugenio Pacelli (the future Pope Pius XII) in a successful effort to get the Vatican to silence Coughlin in 1936. But reading the rest of the piece, it looks like he wasn't silenced until May of 1942 when Bishop Mooney ordered him to end his political activities. So what's going on here? I clicked on the reference, and it took me to a page (without a page number in Google Books) that said this: Felix Frankfurter's prescient description of the impact of Father Coughlin on FDR and whether the Vatican would "silence" him is in JPK papers at the JFK Presidential Library. Other Coughlin-related articles provided specific detail:"Coughlin Quits Air, Suspends His Union, Saying Farewell," Associated Press, New York Times, November 8, 1936. I found the 1936 New York Times article, but it makes no mention of the Vatican, saying this instead:

Charles E. Coughlin announced tonight that his National Union for Social Justice, which he said was "thoroughly discredited" as the result of Tuesday's national election, will cease to be active and that he was "hereby withdrawing from all radio activity in the best interests of all the people. His national union, he said in a farewell broadcast, "is not dead; it merely sleeps.…"
Recounting his views of the Presidential elections, the Royal Oak priest announced the union will adopt a "policy of silence" toward the New Deal administration. "

Later it has this quote:

"I do not wish to leave the impression that either my own Bishop (Michael J. Gallagher) or his superiors at Rome have had anything to do with the decision which I am making tonight. This afternoon I told my Bishop what I am telling you now. His stout heart was saddened because of my decision."

Farther down, it says this:

Father Coughlin announced that the weekly periodical, Social Justice, will continue to be published.

So it looks like he wasn't silenced by the Vatican in 1936, or ever, he merely ended his radio broadcast while he continued to publish his views in print. Does anyone know what was really going on with the Vatican efforts described in the source? And what actually became of them? MiguelMunoz (talk) 11:06, 10 December 2023 (UTC)

I would still like further clarification on this, but for now I changed one sentence from this:

"…in a successful effort to get the Vatican to silence Coughlin in 1936."

to this:

"…in a partly successful effort to get the Vatican to silence Coughlin in 1936. Coughlin ended his radio broadcasts, but continued to publish Social Justice." MiguelMunoz (talk) 09:20, 18 December 2023 (UTC)