Talk:Chamber Choir Ireland

Latest comment: 6 years ago by Voceditenore in topic Clean up

Possibly defamatory quote removed edit

The quoted citation was unattributed and posted by an IP. It would need a good citation at the very least to stay - David Gerard 17:42, 12 March 2007 (UTC)Reply

Requested move edit

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The result of the move request was: page moved. Vegaswikian (talk) 22:02, 22 June 2010 (UTC)Reply



National Chamber Choir (Ireland)National Chamber Choir — MOS: no need for disambiguation epithet, as there is no other page with a similar name (National Chamber Choir is currently a redirect to here). Richard New Forest (talk) 21:14, 15 June 2010 (UTC)Reply

  • Speedy move. Next time, consider using Template:db-move on the redirect to get it quickly deleted to make room for a move. Sorafune +1
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Clean up edit

I have just rewritten the blatant advertorial created by a number of editors who are clearly closely affiliated with the choir and its management, e.g. [1], [2]—virtually all of it copypasted or very closely paraphrased from this page on the choir's website. I have also removed unreferenced laundry lists of "Collaborations" (save that nonsense for your website) and I have removed links to commercial sites selling their recordings masquerading as "References". Either use a published review with full bibliographic information or an OCLC number.

I have now removed the {{advert}} tag but added {{refimprove}}. The referencing remains extremely poor. There is plenty of material about the choir in independent reliable sources such as The Irish Times. I have added one particularly key article in the "External links" section. Chamber Choir Ireland had nothing about the choir's history, not even the most basic material like the date of its founding. Needless to say, it also omits a serious and widely covered crisis in 2007 when its funding was cut, and its founding CEO Karina Lundstrom resigned in protest followed by the choir's Artistic Director Celso Antunes, leaving the choir without any leadership for almost a year and the loss of several of its singers.

I may add a "History" section when I get a chance, but the Irish Times article in the "External Links" is a good place to start for any unaffiliated editor who wants to tackle this. As for those users who have been tending and whitewashing the advertorial version, I strongly suggest you read Wikipedia:Paid-contribution disclosure and Wikipedia:Conflict of interest. Note that if any of you work for the sales and marketing departments of the choir, you are considered a paid editor and are legally required to declare this. Voceditenore (talk) 12:25, 6 November 2017 (UTC)Reply