Talk:Catholic Mariavite Church

Latest comment: 8 years ago by Po Kadzieli in topic [Untitled]

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I didn't see anything in the MSN group history for these people that actually affirmed Felicja Kozłowska to be the Holy Ghost, it just said that she supposedly had many visions of things from what I read, and it sounds like if the Pope was going to excommunicate her for the best reason he had available, that he'd do it for her claiming to be God or the Holy Spirit if that's what she or her followers had claimed. Homestarmy 16:15, 6 June 2007 (UTC)Reply

In 1906, the Pope excommunicated Felicja Kozłowska and Michael Kowalski for refusing to disband the Mariavite Order. After Kozłowska died, Kowalski began to teach that Mateczka was the human incarnation of the Holy Spirit which the Catholic Mariavite Church believes today. See: Archbishop Joseph Maria Rafael Wojciechowski, PISMA WYBRANE DZIELO BOZEGO RATUNKU (Selected Writings of God's Work of Salvation), Felicjanów 2003, pp. 103-104. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.160.57.43 (talk) 13:14, 17 April 2010 (UTC)Reply

Their beliefs may appear weird, but their social action was well ahead of its time: apprenticeships for the unwaged, (literacy classes, printing presses, dog breeding, magnificent 3D needlework), children's nurseries, youth rallies etc. Most interesting was the almost accidental introduction of a married priesthood in Catholic Poland in 1923, followed six years later by the ordination of women and their access to the episcopate. This was too much for the deeply traditional aristos who formed much of the male clergy, hence the rowing and split. The most daring innovation by the Kowalski group was undoubtedly the very pragmatic return to the early church, by extending the "universal priesthood" to selected members of the laity, i.e. elders as we see in some protestant churches. That meant that a mother could 'officiate' in a house Mass with her family, very like what goes on in Jewish homes on the Sabbath. With the dire shortage of priests, the RC Church may have to relent some time soon and be dragged kicking and screaming into the twentieth century. (This not a typo).--Po Kadzieli (talk) 00:59, 14 October 2015 (UTC)Reply