Talk:Cat Daddy/GA3

GA Review

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Reviewer: Rp0211 (talk · contribs) 21:22, 22 June 2012 (UTC)

GA review (see here for what the criteria are, and here for what they are not)

1. It is reasonably well written.

   a (prose):
   b (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists):

2. It is factually accurate and verifiable.

   a (references):
   b (citations to reliable sources):
   c (OR):

3. It is broad in its coverage.

   a (major aspects):
   b (focused):

4. It follows the neutral point of view policy.

   Fair representation without bias:

5. It is stable.

   No edit wars, etc.:

6. It is illustrated by images, where possible and appropriate.

   a (images are tagged and non-free images have fair use rationales):
   b (appropriate use with suitable captions):

7. Overall:

   Pass/Fail:

Infobox

• No issues

Lead

• "Cat Daddy" is a 2010 song by American Hip hop group The Rej3ctz and an eponymous dance. → "and an eponymous dance" does not make any sense
  • It is a dance by the same name. Should it by homonymous?--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 23:14, 22 June 2012 (UTC)

If you are going to mention it as a dance, I would change it to "Cat Daddy" is a 2010 song by American Hip hop group The Rej3ctz. It is based off a dance of the same name and is from the 2010 mixtape... Rp0211 ^(talk2me) 18:08, 1 July 2012 (UTC)

done--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 18:24, 1 July 2012 (UTC)

• ...including fourteen weeks on the Hot R&B/Hip-Hop Songs... → Change to "including the Hot R&B/Hip-Hop Songs chart, where it spent fourteen weeks and eventually peaked at number 77"
  • O.K.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 03:35, 23 June 2012 (UTC)
• The dance is the one that Chris Brown performed during 106 & Park 10th Anniversary special in October 2010. → What is "the dance"?
  • The Cat Daddy is the name of a dance.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 03:56, 23 June 2012 (UTC)

I would change the prose of the sentence, so that it makes more sense. For instance, Chris Brown performed the dance during the 106 & Park 10th Aniversary special in October 2010. Rp0211 ^(talk2me) 18:08, 1 July 2012 (UTC)

O.K.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 18:30, 1 July 2012 (UTC)

• ...which has over 70 million YouTube views. → Find a source to verify this as of a certain date
  • This is sourced in the main body directly to YouTube, which is an acceptable source for YouTube views.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 00:59, 23 June 2012 (UTC)

I actually wanted you to put the latest date where the video had 70 million views. Rp0211 ^(talk2me) 18:08, 1 July 2012 (UTC)

done.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 18:38, 1 July 2012 (UTC)

• Several notable celebrities have been filmed doing the dance. → Such as?
  • Below we have videos with Bieber and Upton. The subsequent paragraph details Upton, however, we don't have WP:RS that talk substantively about other performers.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 03:53, 23 June 2012 (UTC)

I just wanted you to mention at least two examples of celebrities in the lead section. Rp0211 ^(talk2me) 18:08, 1 July 2012 (UTC)

Done--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 18:41, 1 July 2012 (UTC)

• ...posted a video of her bikini-clad rendition of the dance on YouTube and YouTube temporarily banned the video. → Change "and YouTube temporarily banned the video" to ",causing YouTube to temporarily ban the video."
  • Done.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 02:59, 23 June 2012 (UTC)
• Her video has over 6 million YouTube views. → Find a source to verify this as of a certain date
  • As stated above YouTube is a WP:RS for number of YouTube views.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 03:54, 23 June 2012 (UTC)

My apologies with this; I wanted you to put as of what month and year that this video had six million views. Rp0211 ^(talk2me) 18:08, 1 July 2012 (UTC)

Done.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 18:55, 1 July 2012 (UTC)

Original version

• Then, the Rej3ctz released a video of the song, featuring Brown dancing, that was made at Venice Beach in the summer of 2010. → Verifiable?

This issue needs to be addressed before I pass this article. Rp0211 ^(talk2me) 18:08, 1 July 2012 (UTC)

Had to use YouTube in this instance.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 19:04, 1 July 2012 (UTC)

Noted. Rp0211 ^(talk2me) 19:45, 1 July 2012 (UTC)

• By April 20, 2011, the official video had 21 million pageviews.[1] → Not necessary because of earlier date mentioned later
  • What do you mean?--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 04:04, 23 June 2012 (UTC)

I misinterpreted this, so this issue has been addressed. Rp0211 ^(talk2me) 18:08, 1 July 2012 (UTC)

• As of 7 May 2012 the original December 2, 2010 upload of the official video has over 66 million YouTube views,[8] → Fix date formatting to be consistent with rest of article

This issue needs to be addressed before I pass this article. Rp0211 ^(talk2me) 18:08, 1 July 2012 (UTC)

Fixed.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 19:05, 1 July 2012 (UTC)

• ...while an alternate March 9, 2011 upload of the video has an additional 4 million plus views.[9] → Only include official information

This issue needs to be addressed before I pass this article. Rp0211 ^(talk2me) 18:08, 1 July 2012 (UTC)

These are identical official videos uploaded to alternate file hosts.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 19:07, 1 July 2012 (UTC)

Noted. Rp0211 ^(talk2me) 19:45, 1 July 2012 (UTC)

• The song was rereleased on June 27, 2011.[10] → Fix spelling of "rereleased" to "re-released"
  • Done.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 04:08, 23 June 2012 (UTC)

Cover versions

• ...when she served as Grand Marshall for the February 26, 2012 Daytona 500.[15] → "February 26" not necessary
  • It provides context in ralation to April 30.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 04:36, 23 June 2012 (UTC)

Since there is only one Daytona 500 per year, it is not necessary in this instance. Rp0211 ^(talk2me) 18:08, 1 July 2012 (UTC)

How many readers will remember the date of the 2012 Daytona 500 forever? We want to be clear that this occurred a few months before the Cat Daddy phenomenon.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 18:57, 1 July 2012 (UTC)

I would agree to this if it was not wiki-linked. Since it is wiki-linked, readers can access information such as the date it occurred. Rp0211 ^(talk2me) 19:45, 1 July 2012 (UTC)

• ...was posted online on Monday April 30.[16] → "Monday" not necessary; include year
  • O.K.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 04:38, 23 June 2012 (UTC)
• According to the Los Angeles Times the video was removed on May 1, while the Daily News reported its removal was May 2.[12][16] → Include year
  • O.K.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 04:51, 23 June 2012 (UTC)
• Following Upton's rendition, The Rej3ctz were impressed enough with Upton that they attempted to contact her regarding future collaboration(s).[3] YouTube now hosts videos of numerous celebrities doing the Cat Daddy including Selena Gomez and Justin Bieber.[20] → Expand this subsection
  • Expanded.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 05:19, 23 June 2012 (UTC)

Tracklisting

• Change title of section to "Track listing"
  • Done.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 04:38, 23 June 2012 (UTC)

Chart performance

• No issues

Release history

• No issues

Notes

• Rename section to References, so readers can distinguish it from an actual "Notes" section
  • O.K.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 05:07, 26 June 2012 (UTC)
• Proofread this section, as it needs a lot of work to fix the formatting errors. When you go through this section, make sure to:

• Only italicize publications such as magazines and newspapers
• Wiki-link the work and publisher (if possible) if it has its first appearance in the section

• done--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 05:21, 26 June 2012 (UTC)

• If a source repeats in the section, do not wiki-link it as it was mentioned before

• I disagree with this. Although we assume a reader has seen a link if it is in the main body above the current location, we do not assume readers read all citations.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 05:21, 26 June 2012 (UTC)

I understand what you are saying, but doing so repeatedly would violate WP:OVERLINK. Also, I still see numerous issues with this section; I can go over each reference and put what needs to be fixed if you want. Rp0211 ^(talk2me) 18:08, 1 July 2012 (UTC)

The guideline that you cite says, footnotes are an exception: "Generally, a link should appear only once in an article, but if helpful for readers, links may be repeated in infoboxes, tables, image captions, footnotes, and at the first occurrence after the lead."--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 19:20, 1 July 2012 (UTC)

It talks about it being helpful to readers. I'm talking about instances with, for example, references 26-31. Rp0211 ^(talk2me) 19:45, 1 July 2012 (UTC)

Even thought it appears redundant, many readers are able to see mouseover details and do not look down at the actual notes section. They only see the specific footnote for the number that they are mousing over. Thus, repeated content helps a reader who is only reading any one of the individual hooks. That is why I generally repeat footnote content. I don't assume the reader is reading through the footnotes at the bottom.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 20:23, 1 July 2012 (UTC)

Noted. Rp0211 ^(talk2me) 21:37, 1 July 2012 (UTC)

• Make sure everything complies with WP:REF

After thoroughly reviewing this article, I have decided to put it on hold at this time. There are numerous prose issues, reference formatting errors, among other things. I decided to put it on hold because I believe you can fix these issues within the general seven days. Also, make sure to expand the information about the original version of the song, including things like background information, lyrics, critical reception, etc. If you have any questions, please feel free to ask. Rp0211 ^(talk2me) 22:38, 22 June 2012 (UTC)

All of the issues have been addressed above, except the Daytona 500 issue. Besides this, I mentioned expanding the information on the original version of the song. Try and include things like background information, lyrics, critical reception, and a possible music sample so this article can be broad in its coverage. Rp0211 ^(talk2me) 21:37, 1 July 2012 (UTC)

Removed the Daytona date.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 01:13, 2 July 2012 (UTC)

Since it has been more than seven days and all of the issues have not been addressed, I am going to have to fail this article for good article nomination at this time. Once these issues are addressed, you are more than welcome to renominate this article. Rp0211 ^(talk2me) 17:15, 15 July 2012 (UTC)

I am a bit confused on why this was failed. I am unaware of outstanding unresolved issues.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 17:26, 15 July 2012 (UTC)

Due to miscommunication between the nominator and the reviewer, I am reopening this article to fix the remaining issues that are left and will give the nominator seven more days. Rp0211 ^(talk2me) 00:50, 16 July 2012 (UTC)

Thank you. I am working on some RL stuff for the next 3 days, but starting Thursday or Friday I expect to get to these issues.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 15:49, 16 July 2012 (UTC)

• In response to the "background information, lyrics, critical reception, and a possible music sample" request, I have added a music sample. I believe it is considered a copyvio to add lyrics. I will look for some critical reception and background info.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 18:01, 18 July 2012 (UTC)
  • I have found a little background and reception content and reorganized a little bit. I make no promises that I will find anything else.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 20:47, 18 July 2012 (UTC)

Rp seems to have disappeared, and everything seems fine here, so I'll pass the article. Wizardman _{Operation Big Bear} 01:20, 26 August 2012 (UTC)