Talk:Carsten Peter Thiede

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There are some mistakes in this article beginning with the academic titles of Mr. Thiede. He was not a "Dr." and not a "Prof." in the official use in Germany, his only academic title was "magister artium".

His datig of the Magdalen-Papyrus has been rejected by almost all papyrologists and philologists, no matter wether they are christians, evangelicans, atheists or what ever.

His publications concerning 7Q5 are criticised and the thesis is shared by almost nobody. This has nothing to do with "mainstream". Serios scientists cannot accept the "junk scholarship" (Hershel Shanks, editor of "Biblical Archaeology Review") by C. P. Thiede in papyrological matters.

Sorry for my poor english

I must correct you. He did in fact have thet title of a Professor, as well as OCF, MA, and KnStJ. That his Theories were rejected by almost all papyrologists is incorrect, in fact they were widely popular and agreed upon (especially among historians).

The difference in tone and content of the english and german versions of the respective articles on Mr. Thiede in Wikipedia is most remarkable. Either there are two different persons of the same name or Germans are unable to discuss these matters without vitriol.

Dr. Johannes Edlinger, Feldkirch Austria

The problem with this article is it contains no citations only assertions. I would draw attention to this (http://www.depts.drew.edu/jhc/theide.html) review of Thiede which is in fact critical of his conclusions. I think his position is certainly more contested in main-stream Biblical scholarship than this article conveys.

Order of St John - a query

Is anyone able to clarify whether this bible scholar was a Knight of the Venerable Order of St John (the British Order]], the Order of St. John (Protestant Continental Europe) (the European Protestant one), or the Sovereign Military Order of Malta (the Catholic Order of St John)? I am trying to sort out the dismabiguation links to 'Order of St John' and I cannot discover from the article itself which of the Orders he was part of...Abbeybufo (talk • contribs) 14:00, 11 November 2007 (UTC)

POV

Prof. Dr. Theide's ideas were, to be charitable, on the fringe of scholarship. This article is a eulogy and not an assessment of his work. To say that he's "controversial" is hardly getting at the point. 69.246.216.233 (talk) 07:00, 16 April 2010 (UTC)

Do you have sources to attest to this description? As far as I can tell from the sources cited here, his scholarship provoked debate, but it was hardly considered fringe. Tiamut^talk 07:08, 16 April 2010 (UTC)

We can't use this I believe, but some people do call him fringe, comparing him with Baigent and Thiering. [1] Dougweller (talk) 18:52, 18 April 2010 (UTC)