Talk:Carrie Best

Google Doodle - Canada

Is it just me or was there just now a Google Doodle of Carrie Best, it just said "Celebrating Carrie Best", and it showed her holding the Clarion newspaper, a lighthouse and the Roseland Theatre in the background. However, for some reason it is gone, and when I searched up for the doodle, I found nothing, I swear I am not tripping or anything...

Still there today. See http://www.google.com/doodles/celebrating-carrie-best. Jmg38 (talk) 08:05, 17 December 2021 (UTC)

The doodle's existence was added to the article in this well-intentioned revision. Per the guidelines in WP:POPCULTURE and WP:NOTNEWS I don't believe this is appropriate and have deleted it. That she is well-known is undisputed and evidenced in the article (e.g. Order of Canada). A laundry list of her commemorations only distracts from the description of her achievements. --Cornellier (talk) 17:00, 17 December 2021 (UTC)

Ok thanks guys, also just to be clear I am just saying that I noticed the doodle at 12:04 am at that time, I just couldn't find any reference for it anywhere at the time, and for some reason the doodle went away quickly after, therefore I couldn't/didn't add it to the article, just thought notifying about it would be useful to an extent. I didn't mention removing the statement, if anything, I support adding the statement. Thanks - RandomEditorAAA (talk) 22:05, 17 December 2021 (UTC)

@RandomEditorAAA, Cornellier, and Jmg38: My ref was a primary source to the Google Doodle archives. An independant source would be better if one can be found. Another editor has added similar content, so we might want to form some sort of consensus about whether or not it it should stay. Personally, I don't think one sentence about the existence of a Google Doodle (something millons of people saw on their homepage on a specific date) distracts from her accomplishments/more distinguished honours like the Order of Canada, especially if it isn't in the lede. As for NOTNEWS, I can see the perspective of it potentially being routine information, especially if every Google Doodle subject had this content added to the respective Wikipedia article. Some other Wikipedia articles have content like this, such as Louisa May Alcott and Ella Fitzgerald. I tried to search if there was an actual precedent for this exact sort of situation (such as an RFC), but I couldn't find anything like that. There is a Google Doodle task force but it appears to be inactive and mainly focused on improving articles relating to Google Doodles because they drive a lot of web traffic to Wikipedia. Clovermoss (talk) 06:55, 18 December 2021 (UTC)

There is also a CBC News article with the headline: N.S. journalist, activist Carrie Best honoured in Google Doodle. [1], which seems a bit more significant than the primary source from the Google Doodle archive. I feel like a cited sentence about the Google Doodle could fit with the advice given in the WP:POPCULTURE essay. Clovermoss (talk) 07:28, 18 December 2021 (UTC)

Support, I agree with the points above, only 1 line stating about the Google Doodle isn't going to be disruptive or distracting to her other works, if anything it shows how significant her works are that there was a Google Doodle made of her. However, it might be important to say that the doodle was only seen by Canadians (as is said on the Google Doodle page, "This Doodle's reach" section). There were 2 outside sources I could find, the CBC source stated above is clearly notable and very significant in Canada, although an article by CJLS also exists, but that is less notable, but is an outside source talking about the doodle. The major concern I do have is that adding this statement doesn't seem well-fit in the Biography section, as it was after her death, but if we make a separate section (like a "Legacy" section) then we should find more information about her legacy, of which it will need to be modelled to fit WP:POPCULTURE, and WP:INDISCRIMINATE, if this could not be done, then perhaps not mentioning could be the better option. Thanks - RandomEditorAAA (talk) 18:03, 18 December 2021 (UTC)

To add to the legacy section, we could mention posthumous award of the Order of Nova Scotia (2002), and Canadian postage stamp issued in 2011. 18:11, 18 December 2021 (UTC)

Clarion

Such shame there is no article for Clarion, Best's life work and important publication in social rights movement. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2607:FEA8:A6E0:A4:C5EF:E868:B8F2:CA72 (talk) 13:54, 17 December 2021 (UTC)

An article has been started at The Clarion (Canadian newspaper). Clovermoss (talk) 17:54, 27 December 2021 (UTC)