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UCMJ articles in WW2 list
editI don't think that the UCMJ articles in the WW2 list can be accurate - or at least our descriptions of them aren't. The majority of the codes in the list are 92, with some labelled (rape) or (murder) in brackets, whereas our key suggests article 92 covers failure to obey orders. I suspect our key is the modern UCMJ articles and there may have been changes since the war. In any case, if these soldiers were executed for a purely military offence, this would contradict what we claim in List of individuals executed by the United States#Military executions. Tom Harris 18:05, 12 September 2006 (UTC)
The Uniform Code of Military Justice did not exist until after World War II. The guys who were executed during WWII must have been convicted under the Articles of War. Hildenja 12:23, 25 January 2007 (UTC)
Incorrect link.
editIn the section titled "Executions during World War II", the link for "Charles H. Smith" goes to a different person with the same name.
I can't find a page for the correct person. And I'm unsure of the correct editing procedure in this case.
--Capper13 18:56, 26 May 2007 (UTC)
Same goes for David Cobb. The David Cobb linked to wasn't even born until after the date of execution. Should we change the links to David Cobb (Solidier) or something along those lines? 71.146.153.115 23:27, 20 June 2007 (UTC)
The links in the list go to other people with the same name. 85.106.143.124 19:07, 25 June 2007 (UTC)
William Abney is another incorrect link. (Unsigned but by 199.46.245.230 21:21, 28 June 2007)
Andrew Gibson is an incorrect link.(Unsigned but by 199.46.245.230 21:22, 28 June 2007)
- Yeah, there are a lot of duff links. Perhaps the editor who created them could check first next time? I'll try to sort them out myself later (ie remove all name links and put back the ones that are correct) ROGER TALK 21:35, 28 June 2007 (UTC)
- Already done. All redlinks and inappropriate redirects removed. The only two links remaining are for Eddie Slovik, the last US servicemember executed for Desertion, and Louis Till, former cellmate of Ezra Pound (mentioned briefly in his writing). BullzeyeComplaint Dept./Contribs) 00:11, 29 June 2007 (UTC)
Removed Willie Hall, Joseph Mahoney and William Lucas from list as there is a question mark over their status. They may have died in prison prior to execution. It now seems very probable they were incorrectly identified as executed.
Added to list are Charles Gibson, George S, Knapp and Theron W. McGann whose executions appear to be more certain. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Gaherfindahl (talk • contribs)
James Norman positively identified with death date, added to list —Preceding unsigned comment added by Gaherfindahl (talk • contribs)
Clarified location of ten executions in Southwest Pacific Area, corrected Milne bay to Oro Bay
Corrected spelling of Robert L. Keller to Robert L. Keller and corrected two execution dates (those of John day and Abraham Thomas). —Preceding unsigned comment added by Gaherfindahl (talk • contribs) 15:01, 10 September 2007 (UTC)
Gaherfindahl reverting edits without explanation
editWould User:Gaherfindahl care to explain why my edits are being reverted without explanation? I am an established and respected Wikipedian, not a vandal. I don't make edits without good reason.
Here is a summary of the changes that I made:
- Changed Shepton Mallet to Shepton Mallet (HM Prison) - the latter is where the executions took place and that article contains quite a lot of detail about the executions.
- Changed month/date wikilinks to no link e.g. June 1945 to June 1945 - Whole dates containing day/month/year should be wikilinked (See WP:MOS#Dates) as this allows the date to be formatted and displayed according to user preference, but there is nothing to be gained from linking just a month and year.
- Changed a handful of year-only wikilinks e.g 1945 to 1945 - again the manual of style is explicit that this should only be done if it aids the readers understanding. As this article was inconsistent in its use of the links I chose to remove them all.
- Fixed a few minor bugs e.g. commas between day/month and year wikilinks - these are superfluous as the autoformat for dates determines whether a comma is needed.
--Cheesy Mike 16:58, 17 September 2007 (UTC)
- I thought your edits were entirely reasonable but I wouldn't keep reverting if I were you. Let others do it to demonstrate consensus. See the three revert rule for information. --ROGER DAVIES TALK 17:11, 17 September 2007 (UTC)
- Thanks. I'm fully aware of 3RR and appreciate your comment. I hope that Gaherfindahl will behave just as reasonably. --Cheesy Mike 17:17, 17 September 2007 (UTC)
In order to avoid conflict, I will do my utmost to comply with group consensus on these issues.
~~Gaherfindahl —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.149.181.236 (talk) 22:55, 20 September 2007 (UTC)
Theater of operations
editRather than European Theater I think in these WWII cases it should be the Theater of operations article European Theater of Operations (ETO) and the same for the others like Mediterranean Theater of Operations --Philip Baird Shearer (talk) 15:15, 21 November 2007 (UTC)
Updates
editClarified location of Francis Line's execution. He was tried in Arizona, and presumably executed in that state, not Trinidad.
Removed George Gil and Amos Thomas from list, as their convictions were overturned.
Added Robert Davidson, Clinton Stevenson, Lee. R. Davis, Solomon Thompson, Manuel Martinez and John O'Connor to list of executed soldiers.
Corrected Charles Gibson to Clarence Gibson.
Corrected dates in case of George Green, John Williams, Milbert Bailey and James Jones.
Clarified location of James Norman's execution. It was definitely in the Philippines.
Clarified location of two executions in Belgium (Holden, Spencer)
Identified method of execution (shooting) in case of Bennerman and Parker.
Updated sources.
Identified dates of execution for Bohn, Davidson, Stevenson, Martinez
Identified method of execution in Gibson, Boston, Thomas and Davidson
Corrected date of execution for Maxey
Corrected date of execution for Reid
Updated sources and cleaned up references
Submerged the Somers article into a short, more accurate article on naval executions.
—Preceding unsigned comment added by Gaherfindahl2 (talk • contribs) 17:57, 6 November 2009 (UTC)
spyware link reverted
editthe link *The U.S. Military Death Penalty leads to a malware popup. i therefore removed it. 99.233.141.169 (talk) 23:19, 20 April 2008 (UTC)
mutineers executed
editI don't think any of these executions of Afro-American personnel executed for mutiny have been listed: http://www.abc.net.au/am/content/2012/s3427319.htm http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-11-22/queensland-historian-reveals-world-war-ii-cover-up/5112504?section=qld
Petedavo talk contributions 02:45, 24 December 2013 (UTC)
Also missing the WWI execution of 19 soldiers from the 24th Infantry for munity. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 73.145.253.175 (talk) 17:29, 20 January 2022 (UTC)
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