Talk:Capetian–Plantagenet rivalry

Battle of Taillebourg

I have added two cites to the effect that this battle did not include the subsequent action at Saintes; the first explicitly has separate headings for "Battle of Taillebourg" and "Battle of Saintes", and the second ends its treatment of the battle, for which it lists only the date of the 21st july, with the assault on the bridge at Taillebourg. Pinkbeast (talk) 01:33, 13 November 2017 (UTC)

"French victory"

Isn't that a bit redundant given that both dynasties were French? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.241.233.34 (talk) 14:44, 22 April 2018 (UTC)

One of them was rulers of the Kingdom of France. Pinkbeast (talk) 06:03, 23 April 2018 (UTC)

Two trained bilingual late-medieval historians, native speakers of English and French, needed!

   I expect that the topic gets more intensive study south of the Channel, but my sense is that two specialized professional medievalists, each fluent in both languages, could express their shared insights for English readers far better than we've seen so far. I fear my own contributions should go no further, but hopefully I've made some pertinent observations than can goad those more skilled than I toward work on what will better serve this WP edition's users. I flatter myself that my own efforts point up some weaknesses in the revision I found, and may be helpful in revealing more, of what seem to my poor eye, current shortcomings.
--JerzyA (talk) 03:14, 13 September 2019 (UTC)

Possible extension of the timeframe of the rivalry

I am considering adding sections for the various conflicts and campaigns in France during the reigns of Edward I and Edward II. Both of these conflicts occurred roughly around the turn of the 14th century which would extend the period of the overall rivalry by about another 60 years. I see it as fitting because it occurred over similar disputes in the Gascon region that had been occurring for about a century at that point, and also because it included the same two royal families in question. I have to emphasize the fact that it was the same two royal families since someone here was upset by the fact that I added information on the Hundred Years War despite the fact that that war still technically involved two cadet branches of the same royal families. AngevinKnight1154 (talk) 16:14, 30 October 2023 (UTC)

The House of Valois, the House of Lancaster, and the House of York are cadet branches. But the Hundred Years' War starts with the policies of Edward III of England. He was still part of the main line in the Plantagenet dynasty, and he is the direct ancestor of the Lancasters and the Yorks. The earlier rivalries between the two dynasties are precursors to the Hundred Years' War. Dimadick (talk) 15:27, 1 November 2023 (UTC)