Talk:Calpurnia gens

Latest comment: 4 years ago by Llywrch in topic Re: L. Calpurnius Longus

Correction as to Father of Calpurnius Galerianus edit

The list asserts that "Calpurnius Galerianus, son of Licinianus, murdered by Gaius Licinius Mucianus, the praefectus of Vespasian.[19]" The citation is to Tacitus, 'Histories', Book IV, section 11, wherein it is ~ not ~ stated that Galerianus was the son of a "Lucius Piso," but of "Caius Piso," who could only be the conspirator under Nero and consul of 41. According to Tacitus, "The murder of Calpurnius Galerianus caused the utmost consternation. He was a son of Caius Piso and had done nothing..." Pelagius1 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 18:34, 7 April 2013 (UTC)Reply

Of note, Wikipedia's own article on Lucius Calpurnius Piso Licinianus, Galba's heir, correctly asserts that "it appears" he and his wife "had no children."Pelagius1 (talk)

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Re: L. Calpurnius Longus edit

This addition is more of a place-holder than how I expect it to look for good. Longus is part of a scholarly mess that I am still trying to untangle, where it appears that evidence about least 4 men were inadvertently considered to apply to the same person, 4 different scholars writing in 4 different languages have tried to clean it up, but more recent evidence requires the best explanation to be modified to some degree. (Sometimes I really hate the no original research rule.) -- llywrch (talk) 22:34, 11 January 2020 (UTC)Reply

I think it's fine insofar as it's the best available evidence. If it gets cleared up, the entry can be changed. I'll separate the father and son, though, as these articles generally use one entry per person. If the father is known only from the filiation, it would be okay not to mention him at all, but that's done in a few instances, particularly in the old patrician families of the early Republic. P Aculeius (talk) 23:03, 11 January 2020 (UTC)Reply
Actually, it's more complicated than even that. The names of the men (best as I can distinguish) them are:
M. Calpurnius [...]
M. Calpurnius M.f. Coll. Rufus
L. Calpurnius Longus
Calpurnius Rufus
L. Marcius Celer M. Calpurnius Longus
I think that's everyone, ignoring a few surmised individuals. My challenge is figuring out how to set forth all of this information, especially as I suspect one of these is a duplicate. (Or I can just pick one expert, present his interpretation as RECEIVED TRUTH & label the rest as fringe views. ;-) -- llywrch (talk) 23:29, 11 January 2020 (UTC)Reply