Talk:CN Tower/Archive 2

Archive 1

Archive 2

Recent edits

@Johnny Au: What do you think of Platonic Love's recent edits? Vaselineeeeeeee^★★★ 00:05, 1 August 2017 (UTC)

I appreciate you posting here to open dialogue as opposed to reverting. I worked hard researching to make corrections and remove inconsistencies while updating outdated information from 2014. It's not hard to see that this article has a lot of room for improvement and I'm committed to working collaboratively with other editors to achieve this. Platonic Love (talk) 00:53, 1 August 2017 (UTC)

Looking great, except for one thing: the citation you provided for Canton Tower is from the Daily Mail. Wikipedia consensus states that citing the Daily Mail is prohibited in many cases: Wikipedia:Reliable_sources/Noticeboard/Archive_220#Daily_Mail_RfC. Johnny Au _{(talk/contributions)} 01:28, 1 August 2017 (UTC)

Thank you! I appreciate your feedback Johnny Au. I'm not familiar with the particulars on the appropriateness of using the Daily Mail as a source but perhaps this is one of the minority cases where citing them is acceptable? In any case, I've replaced it with a source from National Geographic. Platonic Love (talk) 02:34, 1 August 2017 (UTC)

Now that I've had a better chance at looking at the work, thank you. The thing that was throwing me off was the List of tallest freestanding structures lists the Goldin Finance 117 in the list, but is scheduled to open in 2018 and isn't listed at [1] yet. Vaselineeeeeeee^★★★ 02:35, 1 August 2017 (UTC)

No problem. These lists can often times get complicated and messy so I understand. Glad to contribute. Platonic Love (talk) 02:48, 1 August 2017 (UTC)

So but should we do something about that list? For consistency's sake, it wouldn't be right to list the CN Tower as 8th tallest, then they click the link and it's now 9th...should Goldin Finance 117 be in that list already? Vaselineeeeeeee^★★★ 02:50, 1 August 2017 (UTC)

I initially thought that removing it and then re-adding it when it's officially completed would be most logical. However, I noticed that the page included a note which states * Structures under construction are included in main list if its current height is over 350 metres (1,148 ft). I think the reason for the confusion is because it appears to have been structurally topped out for quite some time and it's hard to tell whether it is in fact currently taller than the CN Tower or not, a fact which would not be reflected in the source as it only includes fully-completed and operational buildings/towers. It seems that restoring the CN Tower to ninth tallest might actually be most accurate. Platonic Love (talk) 03:00, 1 August 2017 (UTC)

Looking great so far. Johnny Au _{(talk/contributions)} 02:31, 12 January 2018 (UTC)

In Popular Culture section

Should we improve the section with additional citations or do we remove it completely? I would prefer the section to be improved with additional citations and remove entries that simply either make a passing reference to the tower or is simply shown as a passing establishing shot. Johnny Au _{(talk/contributions)} 00:41, 27 September 2018 (UTC)

Yeah, I think most of it is non-notable. I think the only ones we should keep that had gained a lot of attention are Drake's Views album and the film Highpoint. The others can be removed as was recently done at [2]. Vaselineeeeeeee^★★★ 01:09, 27 September 2018 (UTC)

I agree. They need to be sourced. Wikipedia isn't a pop culture wiki like TV Tropes, as much as I enjoy reading the latter. Johnny Au _{(talk/contributions)} 12:50, 27 September 2018 (UTC)

 Done Johnny Au _{(talk/contributions)} 03:01, 5 October 2018 (UTC)

Don't be shocked if we get sued for including a photo

https://www.toronto.com/news-story/9627105-cn-tower-s-owner-says-book-cover-art-violates-trademark/?previewkey=eaaaanqx9bbxicpv7jk1fsyipmfyx11rgeemnws36u9ktlji What garbage. ―Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 20:42, 3 October 2019 (UTC)

@Koavf: See here: Freedom of panorama. In Canada, it is perfectly legal to photograph buildings and structures (and their interiors), as long as they're not architectural plans. Ironically enough, the CN Tower is owned by Canada Lands Company, which is owned by the federal government. Johnny Au _{(talk/contributions)} 00:04, 4 October 2019 (UTC)

Johnny Au, Of course. Just pointing out the stupidity in a public place. ―Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 00:05, 4 October 2019 (UTC)

@Koavf: I strongly agree. I even created a thread in the UrbanToronto forum: https://urbantoronto.ca/forum/threads/cn-towers-owner-says-book-cover-art-violates-trademark.30424/ Johnny Au _{(talk/contributions)} 00:27, 4 October 2019 (UTC)

To clarify, the author in question, James Bow, is both a blogger of the Transit Toronto website and an urban fantasy novelist. Johnny Au _{(talk/contributions)} 12:04, 11 October 2019 (UTC)

World's THIRD tallest tower

I think the CN Tower is the world's 3rd tallest and this article has it listed as the 9th. I think it's the 9th tallest free standing structure. 9th tallest tower. I hope someone else looks into this and makes the appropriate changes. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.15.55.197 (talk) 12:18, 18 October 2018 (UTC)

It's weird how nobody is changing this. I don't want to do it myself. Should someone have fixed it by now?

https://www.worldatlas.com/articles/10-tallest-towers-in-the-world.html

https://www.infoplease.com/world/structures-buildings/worlds-tallest-towers?fbclid=IwAR1qWt7HLmqAtYmiXxx6ZOWThRkMO6MINFHLF7PUhkADdNdnPS6EzQfR9kw

https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2013/10/03/world/cn-tower-fast-facts/index.html?fbclid=IwAR2ZdFLWEL_QtuI5ikEbEsdo2F8Ot2wY8tSQI0rm8daC-gclMUp07l8eWxw — Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.15.55.197 (talk) 02:10, 19 October 2018 (UTC)

Many of us regulars are quite busy. @Vaselineeeeeeee: What do you think of all of this? Johnny Au _{(talk/contributions)} 12:43, 19 October 2018 (UTC)

I think I've changed what they want from ninth tallest tower to ninth tallest free-standing structure, and also added third tallest tower explicitly at the end of the "tallest tower" section - it had said it was passed by Canton and Skytree as tallest tower, but didn't say it was the third-tallest tower explicitly. Vaselineeeeeeee^★★★ 13:18, 19 October 2018 (UTC)

That makes things more clear. I understand why the IP user was confused at first. I too would get confused as well. Johnny Au _{(talk/contributions)} 01:58, 21 October 2018 (UTC)

Well now I know that the CN Tower is the tallest in the northern hemisphere. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 184.147.189.191 (talk • contribs) on 01:32, 15 December 2019 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 14 January 2020

I found some interesting ideas added today! WikiGodSlayer (talk) 22:49, 14 January 2020 (UTC)

@WikiGodSlayer: State your proposed additions here with WP:RELIABLESOURCES and where you would like them added, and we'll see what we can do. Vaselineeeeeeee^★★★ 23:02, 14 January 2020 (UTC)