Talk:Burn!

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Criticism edit

Like one of the links, "Ecology of Destruction" show, the original script refered to a spanish colony in the Caribean. This was changed to a portuguese colony allegedely not to offend the spanish audiences. The film shows many stereotypes about portuguese and spanish being more or less the same. Except for the title, that is really portuguese, most carachters have spanish names and not portuguese. That´s why the film is often criticized for his stereotypes about portuguese and spanish as being relatively the same. It´s odd to see an anti-colonialist film showing so much ethnic and language stereotipes. The only portuguese name in the film is "Queimada", the rest is all spanish. User:Mistico14:00, 6 July 2007 (UTC)Reply

The criticism doesn't makes sense. It was the Spanish government who enforced successfull to change the script. Because of that they had to change the Spanish colony simply to a colony of Portugal. That's why the names are still Spanish. It hasn't anything to do with "stereotypes", they did let the Spanish names in so that the viewers see it is about about a Spanish colony. 28 Sept 2007 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.176.191.229 (talk) 19:15, 28 September 2007 (UTC)Reply

So, you simply, proved my point. I´m thankefull. I usually don´t argue with anonimous users, but you just proved my point. Nobody can imagine in a film a portuguese colony being changed to a spanish one, and the names remaining the same. User:Mistico 23:16, 14 October 2007 (UTC)Reply

It is exteremely doubtful that Franco, a facist could pressure Pontecorvo, a ardent Marxist to make the change from Spanish to Portugeuse. More likely, it was changed so as not to offend Spanish-speaking viewers who represent a large segement of the movie market. Either way it is odd, because the events of the film clearly follow the events of the FRENCH colony of Guadeloupe. Sanchopanzadog (talk) 20:06, 9 November 2008 (UTC)Reply

Spanish colonialism is represented in a negative way in many other movies. I hardly can believe Gillo Pontecorvo would like to satisfy someone. Even if he wanted to change the Spanish colony of the original script to another colonial power, he could have made it a french, dutch or danish colony, since Portugal never had any colony in the Caribbean.213.13.243.217 (talk) 23:16, 4 December 2008 (UTC)Reply

According to IMDB in the Trivia section, "The film's original title was Quemada (the spanish word for "burnt"), as the action took place in a Spanish colony. When the Spanish government officially complained and threatened a boycott of the film (objecting to the script's supposedly anti-Spanish bias), Gillo Pontecorvo agreed to alter the setting to a Portuguese island and the release title became Queimada ("burnt" in Portuguese)." Although across certain websites, I've seen it say "Quiemada: The Italian title" and that it is about Haiti, which I can't say because I am only about to see the film now, in just a minute. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.174.209.76 (talk) 03:18, 12 December 2008 (UTC) (UTC)Reply

[quote]Names in the film, however, remained Spanish. This is used as a criticism of the film, because it can be seen as an example of ethnic and language stereotypes in which the Portuguese language and culture are regarded as being relatively the same as those of the Spanish. In real life the British and Portuguese are long-standing allies, and it is extremely unlikely that the British would have attempted to overthrow a Portuguese colony.[/quote] removed. Lacks citation, appears to simply be opinion of Mistico. —Preceding unsigned comment added by David Barba (talkcontribs) 18:02, 8 February 2010

Original research edit

The article says in two sections that the William Walker in the movie is based on the American pro-slavery military adventurer. I've tagged these statements as original research, and they should be removed unless reliable sources are added in a reasonable time to WP:Verify the claims. There have been millions of "William Walker"s including dozens with Wikipedia articles. Yes, they were both military adventurers, but the "filibuster" Walker was an American from Tennessee, and the one in the movie is "Sir" William Walker, British. The countries involved are different and there are few similarities. Edison (talk) 16:17, 24 April 2012 (UTC)Reply

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