Talk:Brygmophyseter

Latest comment: 6 years ago by Chiswick Chap in topic GA Review

Jurassic Fight Club edit

I have tagged out the sections on Behavior and "Potential threats" due to lack of verifiability. The information in the sections is from Jurassic fight club and not supported by any peer reviewed papers I can find in the Species. I would suggest merging the JFC information into a single popular culture section specifically about the JFC depiction as the diet, behavior etc are not known at this time.--Kevmin (talk) 20:47, 29 March 2010 (UTC)Reply

Peer reviewed sources are not necessary for an article below GA class. They can be used though. Paleontologists (including Dr. Lawrence G. Barnes) have provided lot of insight about the behaviour and life-style of the Brygmophyseter in the history channel show - Jurassic Fight Club. You can watch the entire episode titled Deep Sea Killers on YOUTUBE to get some idea. Sources are limited on this animal, so we have to work with what we have got.--LeGenD (talk) 06:07, 30 March 2010 (UTC)Reply
I have vastly improved the accuracy of the content now. I have differentiated between known facts presented in scientific literature and what has been depicted in pop culture.--LeGenD (talk) 02:20, 16 July 2011 (UTC)Reply
@LeGenD: with this edit you appear to have added a ref to “Fossil Farm Museum of Finger Lakes”, and it’s still here in the article, but it does not appear to actually exist. It just says “server domain not found” and when I type in the title into a search engine it doesn’t come up with anything. I tried putting it into Wayback Machine but all the snapshots were just blank pages.   User:Dunkleosteus77 |push to talk  19:09, 12 November 2017 (UTC)Reply

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I'll take this on. Reviewer: Chiswick Chap (talk · contribs) 10:31, 27 November 2017 (UTC)Reply

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This is a fine article and I have no more than a few minor remarks to make upon it.

  • Do we need the "colloquially"? The existence of a name in English makes that clear enough.
removed   User:Dunkleosteus77 |push to talk  17:42, 27 November 2017 (UTC)Reply
  • "was later revised in 1995" => "was revised later the same year"
fixed   User:Dunkleosteus77 |push to talk  17:42, 27 November 2017 (UTC)Reply
  • "That is to say that the subfamily does not consist a common ancestor and all of its descendants." Why not just say "(not a clade)" after the bluelinked term paraphyletic in the previous sentence, and if you like add at the end "The use of this subfamily would indicate the uncertain taxonomic position of the species."? Readers can easily follow the wikilinks.
they can also easily follow the wikilink for paraphyletic in that rational   User:Dunkleosteus77 |push to talk  17:42, 27 November 2017 (UTC)Reply
  • "suffix physeter" - no need for "suffix" here.
removed   User:Dunkleosteus77 |push to talk  17:42, 27 November 2017 (UTC)Reply
  • Are all the macroraptorial sperm whales extinct? If so, please write "tended".
fixed   User:Dunkleosteus77 |push to talk  17:42, 27 November 2017 (UTC)Reply
  • "Holotype specimen" - it's always a specimen, so why not just say "holotype". (2 instances)
done   User:Dunkleosteus77 |push to talk  17:42, 27 November 2017 (UTC)Reply
  • "A characteristic of raptors, Brygmophyseter had teeth in both of its jaws which had an enamel coating,". Perhaps "Like other raptors, B had enamel-coated teeth in both jaws."
done   User:Dunkleosteus77 |push to talk  17:42, 27 November 2017 (UTC)Reply
  • "humerus in the arm". Perhaps "humerus (arm bone)".
I changed it to “...the humerus arm bone...”   User:Dunkleosteus77 |push to talk  17:42, 27 November 2017 (UTC)Reply
  • "rorqual baleen whales". Just "rorquals" would do fine, or say "rorquals (baleen whales)" if really necessary. We don't want 2 wikilinks beside each other there.
I don’t see what’s wrong with two side-by-side wikilink   User:Dunkleosteus77 |push to talk  17:42, 27 November 2017 (UTC)Reply
H'm. Far be it from me to mention it, but, the MoS, actually.
  • "In this episode, Brygmophyseter, which was referred to as the 'biting sperm whale,' was portrayed" => "In this episode, the biting sperm whale was portrayed". We've already introduced the names.
when was the name introduced? I don’t think the lead counts as introducing stuff   User:Dunkleosteus77 |push to talk  17:42, 27 November 2017 (UTC)Reply
  • "had killed ... had teamed up" - suggest drop the pluperfect and just say "killed ... teamed up".
it doesn’t seem right to not use the pluperfect tense for me, but it’s done   User:Dunkleosteus77 |push to talk  17:42, 27 November 2017 (UTC)Reply
  • It's not clear why the cladogram goes into great detail about the Physeteridae and Kogiidae, when no comparisons are made in the article with any members of those groups. Suggest stop at those superfamilies.
to relate them back to the modern day sperm whales, and to be consistent with the other raptor articles   User:Dunkleosteus77 |push to talk  17:42, 27 November 2017 (UTC)Reply
  • You might like to illustrate the cladogram (which will be quite small if you trim it as suggested above), e.g. with pics of a living and an extinct member of the superfamilies shown.
that’d make it quite clunky and strange, and the skulls’d all kinda look the same anyways   User:Dunkleosteus77 |push to talk  17:42, 27 November 2017 (UTC)Reply
OK. Of course we could use whole animal or whole skeleton pics for extant taxa like Physeter.
  • Drive-by comment - I transferred the current taxobox image from Flickr, and I'd just like to note that there's also one that shows the skeleton directly from the side[1], in case it could be used as a supplemental or alternate image. The background isn't nice, but the postcranial skeleton is shown better. FunkMonk (talk) 10:59, 27 November 2017 (UTC)Reply
Many thanks. I cropped the taxobox image so it's not bad now. Certainly scope for another pic of the skeleton if anyone wants to add one. Chiswick Chap (talk) 14:00, 27 November 2017 (UTC)Reply

Well, I think that'll do, as the article is in excellent shape. Good work! Chiswick Chap (talk) 17:56, 27 November 2017 (UTC)Reply