Talk:Brown anole

Specific Comments About Sections

One of the portions of the article that I believe needs more attention are the section about Hindlimb Length, which has minimal information to an extent that it almost seems like a placeholder. If there is not much more information that can be found for this section, I think that it may not be a bad idea to remove it, as it does not serve a significant function in the article. I also believe that the header “Communication” is in a similar state where there is not much useful information being presented in it. This section consists of only one sentence that is somewhat of a general statement, so I believe if not much more information can be found about this, it can be removed as well. I did not remove them in case somebody else was able to find more information for these portions.

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I don't think that what should and should not be used as fish bait is really encyclopedic content, so I'm going to remove that little segment. Michael1115 (talk) 00:11, 18 December 2009 (UTC)

Removed "Anole World" site link

Site uses material plagiarized from Kingsnake.com former anole website "Under the Leaves" —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.244.168.180 (talk) 08:24, 18 June 2010 (UTC)

Exponential expansion

Apparently this animal "is capable of expanding its range at an exponential rate". Is that not a general principle of population ecology? Without some limiting factor, 2 rabbits make 4 rabbits who make 8 rabbits who make 16 rabbits who make 32 rabbits etc. Since individuals will spread out looking for food and habitat, the range will increase in line with the population, won't it? Three sources are cited for that statement, but I suspect they give a much more detailed picture of its fertility and invasive characteristics. Could someone with access to the sources, or who is simply familiar with ecological science, try to improve the wording here? Thanks. Credulity (talk) 15:03, 30 July 2012 (UTC)

That is a good point, and I have not found the term "exponential" in the texts I've read. However, the fact that they do not live much over 18 months in the wild, and that the longer-lived Carolina (green) anole (4 to 8 years in the wild) preys on their eggs suggests that the brown is "capable" of expanding exponentially. That does not mean that the brown actually does expand that fast, only that it can if left unchecked. When I was a boy in Florida, there were no browns in my area, only greens. By the time I returned from overseas in 1972, the browns had taken over the yard, and the greens had been relegated to high up in the trees. – Paine (Climax!)  17:16, 15 August 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for your reply and that interesting information. As I understand it, 'exponential' refers to a general shape of a curve, so there can be two different exponential functions with one increasing faster than the other. If all animals expand their populations exponentially given sufficient resources, it is probably not a good idea to talk about the brown anole expanding exponentially as a way of contrasting it with the slower-to-increase green anole population. Its exponential rate is simply faster and it therefore outcompetes the green anole. Again I am speculating and am not an ecologist, but I think the part about exponential growth ought to be reworded somehow. The problem is that I am not sure what would go best in its place! Credulity (talk) 16:05, 12 September 2012 (UTC)

Those are excellent points, Credulity. Just as with many technical terms in the English language, the word "exponential" has both technical and "general" meanings. In this context, the author probably meant it in the general way, which would be something along the lines of "very, very fast". Let me give it some thought to see if there is a more precise way to say what the author meant. Meanwhile, if you think of something first, please feel free to make any edits you deem necessary. Indelibly yours, – Paine (Climax!)  01:45, 25 September 2012 (UTC)

Suggestions for additions

Maybe more information on anole reproductive behaviors would be a good addition. Also noticed that there were no sources for the description section of the article.

Arin1 (talk) 03:52, 24 September 2016 (UTC)

We should include information about anole fighting behavior and that breeds of anole can hiss. Fully Protected Typos (talk) 4:27, October 7th 2018 (EST)

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Brown anole

Brown anoles are very hard to catch.they bite hard.play hard also are fast🦎🦎 Gigglesniff45 (talk) 18:42, 20 September 2020 (UTC)

Page Additions

Hi all, I've added several new sections to the page, including habitat and distribution, reproduction, etc... I expanded upon the sections already present in the article, adding additional sources and citing them throughout the sections. Feedback would be very appreciated! Kellencking (talk) 17:22, 8 October 2021 (UTC)

New edits!

I really appreciated that this page included photos of the male extending dewlap, the Florida female, the female, the grand cayman juvenile, the male extending his dewlap, and the anolis sangrei. These photos were very beneficial and they peaked my interest as well as made the page more user friendly and engaging. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Eliyamak (talk • contribs) 19:50, 19 October 2021 (UTC)

According to https://srelherp.uga.edu/lizards/anosag.htm, I found that brown anoles are typically 5-8.5 inches, which was discrepant from the wikipedia page that has a narrower range and says that brown anole’s are typically between 7 and 8 inches. Because of this, I added in the typical measurement for brown anoles and effectively cited it.

Additionally, I added in more details about the differences between the brown anole and the green anole. For example, the brown anole has a shorter snout length than the green anole. The green anole, or anoles carolinesis, is green or light brown patterned. I added this into the phylogeny section. The brown anoles are less arboreal than the green anoles which are frequently found living in trees, on the ground, or in low vegetation. I added this into the habitat and distribution section.

I added more information to the habitat section of the wikipedia page. Specifically, I added in that although the brown anole was initially found in the Carribean and then introduced to southern Florida, the species is now moving north. Specifically, the species has been found in southern Georgia as well as coastal Georgia. Researchers expect that this trend will continue in the coming years and that the brown anole will continue to migrate to other locations in the north.

All of these changes were made directly on the wikipedia page. I commented on the talk page in depth regarding each of the changes and the sources for them. All of these comments correlate with source 11 which is from https://srelherp.uga.edu/lizards/anosag.htm — Preceding unsigned comment added by Eliyamak (talk • contribs) 03:19, 19 October 2021 (UTC)

Overall Review

I added information to the parental care subsection regarding the selection of nesting sites and egg-positioning and how this allows females to influence offspring survivability and phenotypic outcomes. I cited this article and think the parental care section is much more complete with this addition. Furthermore, I made an adjustment to the section titled “protective behavior”. I changed the section title to Antipredator Behavior, which I think encompasses the concepts of animal behavior we’ve learned in this class to a greater extent. I added more detail in the antipredator behavior and enemies sections in the article because I felt there were a few details left out in the initial drafting of this article. Vertebrates are the primary predator for this species of lizard, but spiders are also a significant danger to the anoles. Also, the lizard's alertness and speed are important antipredator traits that contribute to its elusiveness. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Evanmbradley (talk • contribs) 05:45, 21 October 2021 (UTC)