Talk:Brown University

Prestige rankings in lead

Hi Filetime, please discuss here rather than just reverting without explanation. The two sources given supporting the claim that Brown is “among the most prestigious universities in the world” place Brown between #70 and #80 in the world for international reputation. By that standard, other universities that can claim to be among the “most prestigious” in the world in the lead of their articles also includes Ohio State, Michigan State, Texas A&M, Boston University, the University of Pittsburgh, and Penn State, all of which are ranked higher than Brown for international reputation. While these are all great universities (as is Brown), calling them “among the most prestigious in the world” would be misleading at best, and so the same is true for Brown. —Drevolt (talk) 20:57, 13 December 2022 (UTC)

"Bulang" listed at Redirects for discussion

The redirect Bulang has been listed at redirects for discussion to determine whether its use and function meets the redirect guidelines. Readers of this page are welcome to comment on this redirect at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2023 March 28 § Bulang until a consensus is reached. Hey man im josh (talk) 14:22, 28 March 2023 (UTC)

Lead

As per MOS:LEAD, an article of this size should have a lead of only 3-4 paragraphs, and should be a high-level neutral overview of an article. Nikkimaria (talk) 23:32, 16 April 2024 (UTC)

Does anyone have any specific objections to restoring this version? Nikkimaria (talk) 01:00, 21 April 2024 (UTC)

Yes, as discussed in other places as you full well know. Your attempt to act ignorant about those discussions and the objections that multiple other editors have made is tedious and dishonest. ElKevbo (talk) 01:31, 21 April 2024 (UTC)

Please cut out the personal attacks and let's focus on the content. In other places you have objected to |type= which is unchanged in that revision; a link to Ivy League which is present in that revision; unlinking the state which is appropriate per MOS:GEOLINK; and a link to research university. If the last of these is added, do you have any additional objections? Nikkimaria (talk) 01:53, 21 April 2024 (UTC)

Add: I do appreciate that you seem very upset and I'm sorry for that - it certainly wasn't my intention. But I would like to move past that and get some improvements in place. If you have any other objections I'd like to see if we can reach agreement on how to resolve them. Nikkimaria (talk) 12:42, 21 April 2024 (UTC)

Thanks.

I do think that it's important for our articles about similar, related topics to be comparable to the extent that is possible. So I again recommend raising your objection to the alumni content in the lede in a more visible, centralized place as it's a very common practice to include that information. I would support a movement to remove or trim down that material in the ledes of all articles about US colleges and universities - but I would continue to object to editing just this article or a handful of articles without making similar changes to the other articles that have the exact same content. ElKevbo (talk) 00:46, 23 April 2024 (UTC)

I appreciate your perspective, and I have no objection to holding such a central discussion to address the wider issue. However, we need not halt progress on this article because other articles may also need work. Nikkimaria (talk) 01:07, 23 April 2024 (UTC)

That this is widespread indicates that there is, or at least was, some level of consensus. I appreciate you being bold in some of your edits but now that another editor has objected it's incumbent on you to determine if consensus has changed or can be changed. ElKevbo (talk) 01:17, 23 April 2024 (UTC)

Implicit consensus exists only until it is disputed; the responsibility for achieving consensus for inclusion is on those seeking to include disputed content. Nikkimaria (talk) 01:45, 23 April 2024 (UTC)