Talk:Brooks Robinson/GA1

GA Review

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Reviewer: PCN02WPS (talk · contribs) 04:28, 29 March 2021 (UTC)

Hi there - I'll be reviewing this article over the coming days. I'll leave comments below, separated by section, and then present an overall assessment once those have been taken care of. Thanks! PCN02WPS (talk | contribs) 04:28, 29 March 2021 (UTC)

I have left comments below. PCN02WPS (talk | contribs) 03:01, 30 March 2021 (UTC)

Lead

• you mention "16 consecutive Gold Glove Awards" in both the second and fourth paragraph - I think it'd read easier if you only mentioned it once and structured the related info around that one (maybe mention being tied with Kaat in the second paragraph as that would seem more in place.

Early life

• "The team reached the regional finals when Robinson was 15 in 1952..." → switching to "reached the regional finals in 1952, when Robinson was 15,..." sounds more natural and fits better in the sentence.
• "Major League Baseball" is already linked in the lead, so I don't think you need to link it or spell it out again this time.
  • Most articles link items on first mention in the lead AND in the text; I don't know that I've ever seen a GA that did it any differently. Sanfranciscogiants17 (talk) 11:26, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
    • Fair enough, you've seen more GA reviews than I have so I'll strike. PCN02WPS (talk | contribs) 12:02, 1 April 2021 (UTC)

Baltimore Orioles

Early years (1955-1959)

• "demonstrating fielding ability beyond his years though he only batted .227." → reword a bit to improve sentence flow ("...beyond his years, though only batting .227." or something similar)
• "spent most of June rehabbing in San Antonio" → sounds just a bit too casual
• "Offensively, Robinson batted .406 through April." → needs citation
  • It's mentioned in the next cites. Sanfranciscogiants17 (talk) 12:30, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
• "Towards midseason, he developed a hitch in his swing and started hitting too many pop flies. In August, he began losing playing time to Dick Williams due to the slump." → could be combined into once sentence to improve flow
• "he had a scary moment" → a bit too casual
• "creating severe bleeding" → "causing severe bleeding"

Everyday player, MVP (1960-1965)

• "second in the league" → clarify if "the league" refers to the American League or all of Major League Baseball
  • I don't think this is necessary, since AL is already mentioned in the sentence. If it were MLB, I'd point that out. Sanfranciscogiants17 (talk) 12:33, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
    • Somehow missed that. Struck. PCN02WPS (talk | contribs) 18:20, 1 April 2021 (UTC)

World Series champion (1966-1971)

• "his second (and final) season" → parentheses aren't needed here
• "During Game 1, Rod Gaspar hit a slow" → clarify that this is Game 1 of the World Series
• "...only other players to do so in a World Series" → clarify that he joined them as the only players to do so in a World Series game, rather than during a World Series as a whole

Later years (1972-1977)

• ...I don't enjoy going places to hear people say I'm over the hill, or know that they're thanking it." → is this meant to be "thinking" rather than "thanking"? Source is offline so I can't check myself.
• It is thinking...thanks...typo! Sanfranciscogiants17 (talk) 12:35, 1 April 2021 (UTC)

Career statistics

• Earwig returned a 66.2% on the article, with most of it tracing to this section, which was more or less copied directly this website (including inclusion and exclusion of commas as noted below). As far as I understand, this constitutes a WP:COPYVIO, so this might be a top priority in your revisions.
  • Thanks for letting me know; I'll rephrase it. That was already there, so it was someone else who plagiarized the material, not me! Sanfranciscogiants17 (talk) 13:26, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
• I'd be consistent with how you refer to numbers in the thousands and whether or not a comma is included; you mention "2,848 hits" with a comma but "1357 runs batted in" and all numbers in the sentence that starts "His totals of 2870 games played at third base..." leave the commas out.

Player profile

• "He would use a hacksaw blade to shorten the bill to keep seeing the bill from distracting him at the plate." → reads slightly repetitively

Off-the-field occupations

• "He succeeded Kaat as president of the organization in the late 1980s and was still the head of it as of 2014." → a few changes: (a) can you find a specific year in the late 1980s that he assumed office? (b) simplify wording by saying "was still its head" rather than "was still the head of it". (c) this sentence may need an update - is he still in the office as of 2021? If not, note when he left office (and potentially mention his successor).
  • The Wilson book doesn't give a year, and I can't find one anywhere else. However, made other two changes. Sanfranciscogiants17 (talk) 13:40, 1 April 2021 (UTC)

Honors

• "Robinson has won several awards not specifically for baseball players, as well." → comma can be removed

Personal life

• "Actually, nearly half of the Orioles were single." → I'd take this out of parentheses and integrate it into the sentence before it.
  • I don't want to interrupt the quote with it, but I did take it out of parentheses. Sanfranciscogiants17 (talk) 14:19, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
• Ideally, the sentence about the inspiration behind his conversion to Catholicism needs a citation.
  • That's all covered by the next reference. Sanfranciscogiants17 (talk) 14:20, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
• "In January of 2012..." → "In January 2012..." per MOS:BADDATE

Other

• You might want to condense or collapse some of the navboxes at the bottom, perhaps using {{Navboxes}}.

Overall assessment

GA review (see here for what the criteria are, and here for what they are not)
It is reasonably well written. a (prose, spelling, and grammar): b (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists): It is factually accurate and verifiable. a (references): b (citations to reliable sources): c (OR): d (copyvio and plagiarism): It is broad in its coverage. a (major aspects): b (focused): It follows the neutral point of view policy. Fair representation without bias: It is stable. No edit wars, etc.: It is illustrated by images, where possible and appropriate. a (images are tagged and non-free images have fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):
Overall: Pass/Fail:
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All of my concerns have been met, article looks good. Happy to pass. PCN02WPS (talk | contribs) 18:47, 1 April 2021 (UTC)