Talk:Broadside (naval)

Latest comment: 1 year ago by Piledhigheranddeeper in topic Big hole

Disputed edit

The weight of the Iowa broadside should include the shells from the six 5" cannon that can bear, and are seen firing in the image. Also they need to be discussed since only half the 5" batteries bear on a given broadside.--J Clear 19:12, 8 July 2006 (UTC)Reply

While it is agreed the 5" cannon can be fired in such a manner, their range and destructive power is significantly inferior to the main guns. Using the the above logic, the weight of all armaments -- even antiaircraft guns and other "light" guns -- ought to be included in the broadside calculation. Clearly this isn't the case, and a "broadside" is almost universally understood to mean the maximum tonnage of the main (and therefore heaviest) armament of the warship. -- J. E. Smith, 10:37, 13 Aug 2006 (UTC-5)

Please site a reference that "clearly this isn't the case". It may be that the original light guns added a negligble amount to the broadside, but I doubt the 5" batteries fall off the scale that way. Nor is their range that shabby. The dictionary definition of broadside is all the guns on an entire side, no mention of range. Traditionally the heaviest weapons, smashers or carronades, had the shortest range.--J Clear 01:30, 14 August 2006 (UTC)Reply

Ages ago when I was in the military, I thought I understood that a full battleship broadside actually caused the battleship to slide laterally. Is this true and is it significant? Should this information be included in this article? Veriss 04:36, 17 March 2007 (UTC)Reply

Italian WP has a picture of the Iowa ( http://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:BB61_USS_Iowa_BB61_broadside_USN.jpg ) which gives the impression this is true and significant. 194.174.73.33 (talk) 10:26, 25 September 2014 (UTC) Marco Pagliero BerlinReply

16-inch (410 mm) edit

Iowa-class battleships carried a main armament of nine 16-inch (410 mm) main guns
16 inch correspond to 406.4 mm. It is laudable to round the figures for us ignorant mob, but I wonder whether an almost 4 millimeter larger shell would not be problematic. Or there are some sort of copper rings to compensate for this? 194.174.73.33 (talk) 10:19, 25 September 2014 (UTC) Marco Pagliero BerlinReply

I have adjusted the conversion template for more precision. (Hohum @) 11:24, 25 September 2014 (UTC)Reply
Rounded off to 406 mm. Artillery calibers are not measured in decimals of mms.
Peter Isotalo 12:19, 25 September 2014 (UTC)Reply
Kept template, with same rounding. (Hohum @) 12:28, 25 September 2014 (UTC)Reply

Big hole edit

The history section proceeds to the 1590s, and then jumps to the 20th century. The whole period from 1600 to 1900 is entirely omitted--the Age of Sail essentially doesn't exist here. Never mind that the great broadsides of naval history occurred in the 18th and 19th centuries. What gives? Piledhigheranddeeper (talk) 13:28, 30 November 2022 (UTC)Reply