Talk:Breast ironing

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Poor language

"think that girls whose breasts have begun to grow are ripe for sex"

Such language as "ripe for sex" is prima facie ignorant. It is incomprehensible that someone would write such an expression in the Wikipedia.

The subject of "breast ironing" is ignorant to begin with, and then to use ignorant language to describe it is doubly-damned. 98.81.17.64 (talk) 13:29, 4 August 2010 (UTC)

Here comes a white knight to the rescue, maybe such language gives the appropriate effect to understand the mode of thinking of these cameroonian barbarians, did you think of that? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.250.243.165 (talk) 13:52, 8 October 2010 (UTC)

Apologies for missing this note when it was originally posted, but I was the person who added that phrase. I was using the same language used by the cited source, a BBC News article ([1]). I've no objection to you or anyone else changing it to some other phrase with the same meaning. Adrian J. Hunter^{(talk•contribs)} 02:47, 9 October 2010 (UTC)

I've changed this to "ready for sex". Adrian J. Hunter^{(talk•contribs)} 08:55, 2 April 2011 (UTC)

Stating the obvious

"...some say breast ironing can lead to numerous physical issues, such as burns, deformations, and psychological problems"

You don't say.

Surely any reasonable person would expect this... would be more useful to have something like "some nutters say breast ironing cannot lead to numerous physical issues, such as burns, deformations, or psychological problems" and then cite the evidence. If there is any. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.139.230.160 (talk) 21:30, 14 November 2010 (UTC)

I've removed this section as redundant to the section titled "Health consequences". I've also removed the vague claim that breast ironing has been compared to female genital cutting, which was cited only to the Huffington Post (a terrible source) and disputed. I've retained a wikilink to Female genital cutting in the See also section. Adrian J. Hunter^{(talk•contribs)} 08:55, 2 April 2011 (UTC)

bananas?

The reference to bananas can't be right, can it? I mean, how is that possible? Chrisrus (talk) 17:40, 28 May 2012 (UTC)

That does sound weird, but it's straight from the cited source, a BBC news report. Not all bananas look like what Westerners buy in shops: see File:Karat banana.jpg and File:Inside a wild-type banana.jpg. Banana flowers look pretty tough, too; see File:Thanin market banana flowers and leaves.jpg. Adrian J. Hunter^{(talk•contribs)} 19:10, 28 May 2012 (UTC)

Correction of fact or typo

I think you will find that the German Aid Agency referred to is GTZ and not GIZ

Please ignore. I am out of date. It is now called GIZ - apologies.

Thanks for the note – this had me confused. I've mentioned it in the article. Adrian J. Hunter^{(talk•contribs)} 07:07, 17 February 2015 (UTC)

Survey re support for breast ironing

This IP had a point - we're reporting that the survey found 39% of Cameroonian women opposed breast ironing, 41% support and 26% are indifferent, but these total 106%. The numbers are given by these two sources. Can anyone find the original survey results, or a more accurate report? None of our currently cited sources help. Adrian J. Hunter^{(talk•contribs)} 07:07, 17 February 2015 (UTC)

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north/south differences

"Compared with Cameroon's Christian and animist south, breast ironing is less common in the Muslim north, where only 10 percent of women are affected.[3] Some hypothesize that this is related to the practice of early marriage, which is more common in the North, making early sexual development irrelevant or even preferable.[1]"

Or is this just confined to ethnic groups? Do we have any info about which ethnic groups specifically practice those? Cameroon is culturally diverse, beyond the simple religious divide between the north and south (which is true for many African states since they developed from colonial borders which mostly disregarded traditional ethnic and state borders) 2A01:260:D001:FE79:9D0C:B9A3:BF5A:FDEF (talk) 21:32, 12 April 2016 (UTC)

But earlier in that section it says: "All of Cameroon's 200 ethnic groups engage in breast ironing,[8] with no known relation to religion, socio-economic status, or any other identifier. [1]" - also sourced to the same academic paper. Are you able to read it? Perhaps that might help resolve the apparent anomalies. Carbon Caryatid (talk) 22:24, 12 April 2016 (UTC)

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Who are these men?

"Men have said that breast loss detracts from women's sexual experiences, although this has not been corroborated by women"

What was the point of including this sentence? Who are these men? E A (talk) 12:57, 26 March 2019 (UTC)

You'll have to forgive my poor formatting, I am very new to wikipedia, but I would second this. It's not very encyclopedic to say that "Men" have said something but "Women" have not corroborated it, which men? Which women?

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