Talk:Brazilian diaspora

in the Uk

this section needs clean up,

also, I agree with the guy below who wishes for a new name for this article. It is hardly a diaspora.

Brazilians in the US

750 000 or 1 000 000?

In the lead section it says:

- There are an estimated 2 million Brazilians living abroad [1], mainly in the U.S. (750,000)

Below, in the Brazilians in the U.S section it says:

- There are an estimated 1,000,000 Brazilians living in the United States. Major concentrations are in New York, Massachusetts, New Jersey, Connecticut, Florida and California.

Which info is correct?

PMLF 06:24, 26 February 2006 (UTC)

It is hard to tell. Since most of the Brazilians living in the U.S are illegal immigrants, there are no reliable estimates. Estimates from the Brazilian-American community itself should be taken with a grain of salt (like other immigrant communities elsewhere in the world, they tend to overstate their numbers to increase their political clout). Mbruno 15:12, 17 April 2006 (UTC)

Brazilian community in Massachusetts

I suggest we add mention of this, as there are many towns near Boston (notably Framingham, Hudson, Marlborough) with very large and growing Brazilian immigrant populations. Most of the existing articles for these towns make little to no mention of the Brazilian community nor the challenges faced by its continued growth.--Caliga10 17:10, 27 April 2006 (UTC)

I took the liberty of mentioning this, since there was no feedback related to the above point.--Caliga10 03:11, 30 October 2006 (UTC)

Brazilian Diaspora x Brazilian Emigration

The word "diaspora" is normally used to refer to large-scale international migration like the scattering of the Jewish people in the first century of the Christian era or the forced migration of millions of Africans to the Americas as a result of the Atlantic slave trade. Considering that the 2,000,000 Brazilians that are estimated to be living overseas represent only slightly over 1 % of the Brazilian population, I would hardly say Brazilian emigration qualifies as a "diaspora". In fact, the 2-million figure itself is probably overestimated. Perhaps the title of this article should be changed. 200.177.33.83 13:50, 30 April 2006 (UTC)

Agreed, this is not a diaspora. Anyone disagree? If so, please explain. Olinto 22:31, 9 January 2007 (UTC)Olinto

Sounds fine to me.--Caliga10 22:38, 9 January 2007 (UTC)

Diaspora means "dispersion" in Greek, and it doesn't only apply to Jews, but Greeks, Phoenicians, Armenians, Chinese Hakka, Roma etc

"246,000"?

In this edit, User:Opinoso changes

There were an estimated 351,000 Brazilian Americans as of 2008.

to

There were an estimated 246,000 Brazilian Americans as of 2007.

leaving the citing of the source (this) unchanged.

When we turn to the source we see that its dataset is 2007 American Community Survey 1-Year Estimates. Good. But "246,000" puzzles me. Where's it from? -- Hoary (talk) 14:32, 16 September 2010 (UTC)

1% of the population living overseas in NOT a Disapora

Otherwise every country in the world and its populations would be doing a diapora right now, because every country in the world have 1% of its population living overseas, even the Vatican. The name is just absurd, Brazil never had a diapora!!! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Soulflytribe (talk • contribs) 16:25, 18 April 2012 (UTC)

"Brazuca"?

Brazuca is simply slang for "Brazilian". There is no good reason for the word to redirect to this article. Luis Dantas (talk) 13:12, 3 December 2012 (UTC)

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Political bias and falsehoods in lead paragraph

The entire lead paragraph consists of propaganda and none of it is factual:

• Migration from Brazil isn't just a recent phenomenon but was already common during the 1964–1985 military dictatorship, although the rate of emigration increased considerably in the 1980s.
• The economic crisis of the 1980s was not caused by the ending of the dictatorship, but rather started years earlier.
• Lula da Silva was not communist nor has he ever been a member of the communist party; he was president of the social democratic Workers' Party (PT).
• Although Lula was verifiably corrupt, he was not any more so than previous presidents, so attributing a (non-existent) increase in emigration to him is misleading if not intentionally deceptive.

The paragraph takes an open stance for the pro-dictatorship wave and does not attempt to be neutral, nor sound neutral as evident by the phrase "many honest Brazilians left the country, on the [sic] pursuit of a fair place to live." I'm removing most of it and changing the decades. — Grumbely (talk) 19:53, 16 December 2019 (UTC)

Orphaned references in Brazilian diaspora

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Reference named "olivet.edu":

• From German Brazilians: "Olivet Second Most Spoken Languages Around the World". olivet.edu. 7 April 2015. Retrieved 29 March 2016.
• From White Brazilians: "Olivet Second Most Spoken Languages Around the World". Olivet.edu. 7 April 2015. Retrieved 29 March 2016.
• From Demographics of Brazil: "Olivet Second Most Spoken Languages Around the World". Olivet.edu. Retrieved 29 March 2016.

I apologize if any of the above are effectively identical; I am just a simple computer program, so I can't determine whether minor differences are significant or not. AnomieBOT⚡ 16:44, 19 March 2022 (UTC)