Talk:Borough of Swindon

Latest comment: 3 months ago by JMF in topic Tightening the lead

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Would it not be a better idea to merge this with the town of Swindon page? Other largely urban boroughs/unitary authorities of a similar size such as Reading and Newport do this.

Surely the borough of Swindon includes a lot of land and population outside the town of Swindon? David 08:53, 25 May 2006 (UTC)Reply
Could this page not have a wikilink to Swindon itself (imjust nto sure whre would be appropriate) 160.5.247.8 12:40, 9 January 2007 (UTC)Reply

Article titles for villages in the Borough edit

Please contribute to the discussion at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject UK geography#Olney, Milton Keynes; Caversham, Reading; Wanborugh, Swindon. --John Maynard Friedman (talk) 20:33, 26 August 2008 (UTC)Reply

Discussion has been settled. Result: use ceremonial counties for disambiguation of places, and in a geographic frame of reference, see Wikipedia talk:WikiProject UK geography#Olney, Milton Keynes; Caversham, Reading; Wanborough, Swindon. Mpvide65 (talk) 22:09, 26 August 2008 (UTC)Reply

Parish of St. Andrews (marked in red) edit

The article has a list of civil parishes which are part of the Borough of Swindon. These include St Andrews which apparently does not have an article in Wikipedia. Does St. Andrews refer to the former ecclesiastical parish of Blunsdon St Andrew, or is this another parish altogether? the Blunsdon article does not clarify the situation. Could some explanation be given?--Oldontarian (talk) 18:48, 22 June 2018 (UTC)Reply

It is confusing. I updated the article to mention the 2017 creation of St Andrews parish. None of the four parishes created at that time have articles yet: Central Swindon North, Central Swindon South, St Andrews, West Swindon. --Wire723 (talk) 11:15, 23 June 2018 (UTC)Reply

Tightening the lead edit

Anon editor appears to have accepted the change without further discussion, so closing --𝕁𝕄𝔽 (talk) 16:34, 1 February 2024 (UTC)Reply
The following discussion has been closed. Please do not modify it.

Per WP:BRD, I am opening a discussion on how best to phrase the lead. Before I tried to change it (and again now, as it has been reverted), the lead reads:

The Borough of Swindon is a unitary authority area with borough status in the ceremonial county of Wiltshire in South West England, centred on the urban area and town of Swindon.

This struck me as long-winded, awkwardly phrased and with a lot of extraneous detail. I proposed replacing it with this:

The Borough of Swindon is a unitary authority area with borough status, in Wiltshire. Centred on Swindon, it is the most north-easterly district of South West England.

The background is that Wiltshire (now a ceremonial county) is governed by two authorities, Swindon Borough Council and Wiltshire Council. The problem is that, unlike Bedfordshire where each of the new authorities has a new name, the Government allowed WC to keep the old name despite its remit only covering part of the county.

In reverting my change, 2a02:8084:f1c0:4700:3da7:f4fc:9a29:3784 does not specify their objections, only that they don't like it, so I have to guess:

  1. "Ceremonial county of" is redundant: Wiltshire is a ceremonial county (and a historic county). That the council for one bit of the county uses the name of all of it is neither here nor there.
  2. "the urban area and town of" is just background noise. Swindon is big enough and significant enough not to need this cliché phrase.

Can anyone do better or indicate their support for one or other version? 𝕁𝕄𝔽 (talk) 15:27, 1 February 2024 (UTC)Reply