Talk:Bog Child

Assessment

This article could use some cleanup on it's syntax. Also I would suggest making a separate "Characters" section and a section which approaches the themes identified by the reviewers. SADADS (talk) 19:08, 24 October 2009 (UTC)

It does not deserve a C grade and that's clear enough I dare downgrade it for both projects.

Among other problems the lead does not say a thing about the contents of the book. (It is slightly shorter after my rewrite this hour[previous version] but I have deleted only the mention of two annual booklists.)

I have much experience writing one- or two-sentence capsules of children's books into very short leads, relying on the rest of the article. Here I cannot discern enough about the 80 AD story-within-story to do even that. How extensive is that story? How much of it is learned by archaeology and how much is fantasy? How important are the 80 AD themes?

By the way, do we use "historical novel" in reference to a story set only 25 years past, the 1981 setting in this case. -P64 2012-07-29

Simultaneous publication?

Evidently David Fickling publishes both in the UK (Oxford) and US (New York). According to a WorldCat library record (Ext link in the article), the first US edition is "Printed in the United States of American September 2008."[1]

This suggests simultaneous publication but now I doubt the September date (which I wrote into the lead, relying on the infobox), because [a] our biography Siobhan Dowd gives "Feb 2008" parenthetically and [b] the infobox publ date may be for a US edition. The infobox previously said "September 9, 2008" (US style) with oclc for the WorldCat link given above (US edition, but does not specify the ninth of the month). --P64 (talk) 20:43, 29 July 2012 (UTC)

Sources

Beside the Carnegie Medal citation (book and author blurbs) that is now referenced in the article [ref name=medal2009], contemporary press releases are available online.

• [ref name=prdir2009] "Releases for 2009 Awards". Press Desk. CILIP. Retrieved 2012-07-30.[/ref]

Two releases 25 June 2009 feature Dowd and Bog Child. Two earlier releases 24 April 2009 may be useful, "Shortlist ... announced" and "... Judges comments on the shortlist". (Dowd will not be in any audio/video, deceased before the award.)

The CILIP "Shadowing Site" seems at a glance to serve a youth program for the current/latest year, without any archive, but old material may be available.

--P64 (talk) 00:31, 31 July 2012 (UTC)

First century (Iron Age?)

How much of the novel is "set" in the first century if dreams as well as flashback are considered to be set there?

Do proto-historians consider the first-century story believable? Relying on our summary, the outstanding point is that "A flashback shows Mel and her family struggling to meet loan repayments."

P.S. The article text, infobox, and categories do not specify whether the 2000-yr-old elements are historical or purely imaginary. The only suggestion of historicity is in Dowd's citation of the nonfiction "classic The Bog People: Iron Age Man Preserved by P. V. Glob" without critical comment. --P64 (talk) 23:42, 7 September 2012 (UTC)

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