Talk:Bob Russell (The West Wing)

He should have stayed on

Santos should have accepted Russell's offer to stay on as Vice President. I mean it is not like it's common for a Vice Presidential nominee to die on election night and there was a still living Vice President from the same party as the winning ticket. Russell should have stayed on because it would have been a chance to improve himself for another shot at getting the presidency. Plus Santos, with the event of Leo's death, should have been an opportunity for him to put past differences with Russell behind and gracefully accepted his offer. --Rachel Mules 03:29, 22 April 2007 (UTC)

"Bingo"

Maybe it is because of being in the UK, but I've never understood this reference in the name "Bingo Bob". Is it referring to Bingo (or the US version) in some esoteric way, or to something else entirely? --AlisonW 13:03, 2 July 2006 (UTC)

i think the nickname is supposed to imply his lack of sophistication. i don't think its a reference to the UK version of bingo, that would not make sense. i doubt many people in north america even know that there is more than one type of bingo. i have seen all the episodes and i don't recall any direct reference to how he got the nickname. my explanation above is derived from the cultural context of the storyline and the character, it seems to me the most likely explanation. bingo bob, in the USA, is the kind of nickname you give to someone to allude that they are not a deep thinker. to me its a nice way of saying simple minded. perhaps someone else here has more specific information. uri budnik 04:25, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

Real-Life Comparison

On the entries for many of the other West Wing politicians, there's a real politician who the character seems to be modeled after or is supposed to resemble. Is there a real-life counterpart to Bingo Bob? --KoopaTroopa211 05:26, 30 October 2006 (UTC)

"Conservative"?

I don't think it's proven that he is a conservative, so that should be removed from the article. It's never directly stated in the show that he is a conservative and the fact that he was the frontrunner in the Democratic primaries undermines the idea as well, since Democrats would never realistically choose a conservative presidential nominee. His campaign was portrayed as pro-choice and pro-gun control, two positions Conservative Democrats usually don't tow the party line on, along with being more or less pro-gay rights. I don't remember hearing much to suggest he was fiscally conservative either, I'm not sure his mining interests qualify for that. All we know is that he was anti-flag burning, is from Colorado and has significant primary support in the Midwest & West, but that doesn't make him conservative. He would probably be best characterised as a moderate. Although Russell being moderate would undermine Josh's point about Hoynes losing the nomination to Santos for being too moderate for the party liberals, since that would apply to Russell as well. Maybe he would just a progressive/liberal with a couple of right-leaning positions. EJB341 23:34, 15 August 2007 (UTC)

I was under the impression that the show portrayed him as a conservative Democrat, but reading back through the transcripts of the show, I have nothing to back up that claim. So, let's remove the notion of him being conservative from the article. --Hnsampat 02:56, 16 August 2007 (UTC)

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BetacommandBot (talk) 20:18, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

Hock or Hawk a loogie?

The best sources say hawk. Merriam-Webster. Oxford. The script says "hock," but scripts are notoriously corrupt. One not-so-good source compares the two. Still, hock is an alternative spelling of hawk, so if you wish to restore hock I'll leave it alone. YoPienso (talk) 14:43, 10 September 2018 (UTC)

@Yopienso: West Wing Vice President speech on YouTube I think you can hear in this clip that the work is "hock" I believe if you watch Richard Schiff's lips, he says "hock". This transcript of the episode in question also indicates that "hock" is correct.

Other places it's used: Eat Dat New Orleans; The Underground Guide to New York City Subways.

I agree that "hawk" is a variant, and I could be wrong about this, but I really believe "hock" is the most commonly used term.

Billmckern (talk) 18:05, 10 September 2018 (UTC)