Talk:Bo Burnham

I feel like his page should be protected

With such a huge fan base and the amount of people that have seen “Inside”, I feel like Bo should be protected from vandalism. He’s one of the biggest names in Hollywood like Tom Holland. Feel free to correct me if I’m wrong. Filmmaker8306 (talk) 23:56, 5 July 2021 (UTC)

It's already pending changes protected, so edits by non-autoconfirmed users don't appear to the general reader until approved by a pending changes reviewer. Additionally, it seems like vandalism is being reverted very quickly. Since we're the "free encyclopedia that anyone can edit", every page we protect takes us further away from our purpose and the way we recruit new editors. — Bilorv (talk) 08:19, 6 July 2021 (UTC)

Concur with Bilorv Atomic putty? Rien! (talk) (talk) 13:49, 26 July 2022 (UTC)

Ancestry

Does anyone have any info on Burnham's ancestry, ethnicity or heritage such as notable ancestors or ethnic make up? Trapazoid281 (talk) 22:36, 10 July 2021 (UTC)

It's not something Wikipedia would comment on, see WP:TRIVIA Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 23:30, 10 July 2021 (UTC)

Disagree that it's not commented on by Wiki, every big celebrity (and a lot of not so big ones) has at least a sentence or two dedicated to their ancestry in Early Life sections. For what it's worth, Burnham is an English surname and he's from Massachusetts, so there's probably some way of tracing him back to the Massachusetts Bay Colony. Dyaluk08 (talk) 13:13, 7 September 2021 (UTC)

It's not our job to "trace back" anything. Read Wikipedia:Verifiability. Show us sources or there's nothing to discuss. I'm particularly dubious that questions about "ethnic make up" from a user whose other edits are all about Jews are in good faith, given the amount of anti-semitic extremism we see from the far right. — Bilorv (talk) 18:04, 7 September 2021 (UTC)

Peabody?

Apparently he recently won the Peabody Award for his Inside Netflix special? 174.115.22.232 (talk) 05:38, 3 July 2022 (UTC)

Citations in lead

Hey, @Kobra98! Assertions in the lead typically aren't cited; the content in the lead is from the sections, where the assertions do need a citation. Valereee (talk) 23:34, 21 August 2022 (UTC)

Date of birth

https://twitter.com/boburnham/status/634813633508319232 he's confirmed it. carry on. 2601:180:4103:2000:DC7B:C3CF:BF2:911F (talk) 00:51, 30 August 2022 (UTC)

Yeah, I'm down to call this a valid WP:ABOUTSELF. I don't believe a date of birth is a controversial claim, about a third party, nor is it an exceptional claim, or unduly self serving. Adding. FrederalBacon (talk) 03:04, 30 August 2022 (UTC)

I think it's also clear that he was born in 1990, as stated in the song "30". 2601:180:4103:2000:DC7B:C3CF:BF2:911F (talk) 03:37, 30 August 2022 (UTC)

Personally, I don't find song lyrics to be valid ABOUTSELF, especially considering the fact that he has said some stuff that is absolutely patently untrue in his songs about himself. I understand Inside was more of a...well, I've heard it described as the perfect encapsulation of quarantine depression......but it doesn't mean that when he makes false claims about himself in his songs that we can then outright believe the lyrics without any further backing in a different case. I'm 100% sure he was born in 1990, but I'm just personally not about to cite his song lyrics for that. I'm in the process of looking for other stuff. If you can find an interview in which he maybe gave his birth year, or something, that might be okay. FrederalBacon (talk) 03:48, 30 August 2022 (UTC)

Here he mentions being born in 1990 in this interview with Tim Key.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WxjhpCZ0qRk

Its linked directly from Tim Key's website here: https://www.timkey.co.uk/watch Crycrywolf (talk) 22:06, 30 August 2022 (UTC)

Here also is a written interview where he says "I turned 30 in August." The interview was done in December of 2020 and he is discussing the hardship of turning 30 during quarantine, so he HAD to of been referring to August 2020 (because we were not in quarantine in 2019). https://www.complex.com/pop-culture/2020/12/bo-burnham-promising-young-woman-interview

Hopefully this is enough! Crycrywolf (talk) 22:09, 30 August 2022 (UTC)

"I turned 30 in august" with an interview date of Dec 2020, describing turning 30 in quarantine, sounds pretty good to me. FrederalBacon (talk) 22:45, 30 August 2022 (UTC)

Yep this is such a non-issue. He was 100% born on 21 August 1990. Why this has even been edited out is beyond me. Petty beyond belief. Dyaluk08 (talk) 13:06, 1 September 2022 (UTC)

Because it's a BLP, and an experienced editor just got blocked a few days ago for adding an uncited birth year. Uncited or poorly cited in BLP comes down, immediately. FrederalBacon (talk) 16:38, 1 September 2022 (UTC)

We generally require multiple instances of coverage in reliable sources or very clear "today is my 30th birthday" self-source statement. We don't add "Today's my birthday" to another time he says "I'm thirty" or "I was born in 1990". It's a privacy issue. Valereee (talk) 18:06, 1 September 2022 (UTC)

And I think year of birth is much more important than birthday, which is what we've got now. If we've got a source for birthday and another for birth year, we should go with the birth year. Valereee (talk) 18:10, 1 September 2022 (UTC)

Someone added it, using this as a source, but then someone else reverted it. I did not. I probably would have though, there is no explicit mention of his birth year, just many references to how old he was at certain years. It's enough to draw a reasonable conclusion he was born in 1990, but that's not enough for a BLP, obviously. FrederalBacon (talk) 18:17, 1 September 2022 (UTC)

I'd prefer using the YouTube interview as a self-source for born in 1990. Valereee (talk) 18:39, 1 September 2022 (UTC)

I was fine with that, as above. Between the youtube video and the tweet, his entire birthday is sourced then. FrederalBacon (talk) 21:13, 1 September 2022 (UTC)

I don't think we can add the two together. I can tell you I was born in 1990, and then in another conversation tell you today's my birthday. That is not the same as giving you permission to broadcast my full DOB. Here's the most recent discussion I can remember. We decided a clear self-source for a non-minor was fine to use, but the discussion focussed on mentions that made the entire DOB clear, such as a tweet saying "Happy birthday to me! I'm 21 today!" Valereee (talk) 11:30, 2 September 2022 (UTC)

I'm half tempted just to ask on twitter for his full birthday to see if he replies, lol.

If both are citable, I don't see why we couldn't cite them individually next to each other. Obviously we have the BLP privacy concerns with DOBs, but it says in WP:DOB that sources linked to the subject such that it may reasonably be inferred that the subject does not object to the details being made public. He discussed turning 30 multiple times in the 2020 interview, and he tweeted on his birthday, that it was his birthday. I think it might be reasonably inferred that the subject does not object to the details being public. FrederalBacon (talk) 16:43, 2 September 2022 (UTC)

Citing them individually doesn't get past the BLP privacy concerns. The fact someone has said one time that it's their birthday and said another time that they were born in 1990 is not them giving permission for WP to put those two bits of information together to set them up to be doxxed, which is why we have this concern in the first place. It's why we've previously required that the full DOB be mentioned widely in RS.

I guess if you want to go ask them on Twitter, there's no particular reason that's disallowed, although to me that seems like an intrusion. If they wanted their full DOB broadcasted, they'd have it in a bio somewhere. If it were me, I think I'd contact them privately. That's what I generally do when requesting people upload a photo. Valereee (talk) 17:02, 2 September 2022 (UTC)

Oh trust me, I was joking about asking. So, lacking citing both, which one do we leave up? I'd argue year is more important, but also has the weaker cite, given that it's an inference from statements in an interview, whereas the the date has an ABOUTSELF tweet as a cite. FrederalBacon (talk) 17:04, 2 September 2022 (UTC)

There's a definite statement at 2:50 in the YouTube interview with Tim Keys. Keys asks 'when were you born' and Burnham responds '1990'. I'm happy to go with that since year of birth isn't disputed and isn't sensitive info. Valereee (talk) 17:28, 2 September 2022 (UTC)

He wrote "I'm 28 today" in the caption of this Instagram post dated 21 August 2018, surely this supports the original full birth date? -- Dyaluk08 (talk) 14:48, 13 December 2022 (UTC)

Yep, that'll do it! Valereee (talk) 16:05, 13 December 2022 (UTC)

Is a tweet from him, and his birthday on imdb enough to insert his actual dob on the page? Oresh09 (talk) 10:29, 3 January 2023 (UTC)

The tweet mentioned by Dyaluk just above is sufficient. We don't consider IMDb reliable, as it's crowdsourced, but "I'm 28 today!" from a verified social media account is enough. Valereee (talk) 15:17, 3 January 2023 (UTC)

Mention of partners

https://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/keith-urban-phoebe-bridgers-bo-burnham-tiktok-b2358286.html there's been a lot of rumors of him dating Phoebe Bridgers, photos of them together, this video of them kissing, I think he sold the house he had with Lorene Scafaria, etc. I know celebrity relationships are kind of tricky on Wikipedia because a lot of info is from tabloids, but because there's so much evidence of him dating Phoebe I'm thinking of removing Lorene from the info box and rephrasing how she's mentioned in the personal life section to be like "in 2013 he begun dating Lorene Scafaria" or something like that. Thedualcitizen (talk) 21:16, 19 June 2023 (UTC)

As you say yourself, there have been/are rumours (so WP:RUMOUR still applies here). It has not been confirmed by either party (or their representatives). Tbh, I also believe that he’s longer with Scafaria, but we don’t include things in Wikipedia based on our beliefs or rumours, no matter how many there are. Felida⁹⁷ (talk) 06:43, 20 June 2023 (UTC)

YouTube Stats in Infobox

Somebody keeps adding an "additional citation needed" tag to the YouTube view count in Bo's infobox even though any additional sources to get view counts directly scrape all information from YouTube because YouTube is the only place with direct access to publish and share the data (in this case, through the channel's about page). It's almost like citing a Wikipedia page but if Wikipedia just copied and pasted information from its sources. Because of that, I've removed the tag. Should it stay on? Fishonlegs (talk) 23:54, 7 August 2023 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 18 January 2024

I would like to revert changes that were deleted that I’ve done, as I have a source and they were removed for not having one. YoavStr (talk) 07:31, 18 January 2024 (UTC)

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Cannolis (talk) 07:37, 18 January 2024 (UTC)