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Merge Blue Jays and Ridge Runners

Hi, I'd like to propose that Bluefield Blue Jays and Bluefield Ridge Runners be merged into one article. I think that the new team (the Ridge Runners) is actually just a rebranding of the old team, and there's no reason to have a separate article for it. This is supported by all relevant articles about the rebrand I can find (MetroNews, Ballpark Digest). For further evidence, you can see that the Ridge Runners use the same Twitter account that the Blue Jays used, created in June 2011, and in their bio, they claim the records set by the Blue Jays ("14-time Appalachian League Champions"). –IagoQnsi (talk) 18:16, 26 June 2021 (UTC)

@Baseballfan1948, NatureBoyMD, TR6824, Jeffconn, and Fatpig73: pinging recent editors –IagoQnsi (talk) 18:16, 26 June 2021 (UTC)

Ah, I forgot to mention: If we do this merge, I think we should keep the Blue Jays article (since it has the longer page history) but move it to the title "Bluefield Ridge Runners". –IagoQnsi (talk) 18:19, 26 June 2021 (UTC)

I was ready to object to this, but I can't come up with a good reason to do so. Some Appy League teams were owned and operated by MLB clubs. Others, like Bluefield, look to have been owned by Toronto and operated by a local group. I guess it seems reasonable to treat it as a rebranding rather than a separate club. I wish Template:Infobox baseball team had former affiliation and classification fields, so that information could still be displayed in the infobox, or that we'd just continue using Template:Infobox Minor League Baseball with this team. NatureBoyMD (talk) 19:27, 26 June 2021 (UTC)

I'm in complete agreement here...this seems no different to me than not having separate pages for the San Francisco Giants and the New York Giants. The Bluefield team is effectively one organization that has changed its name and affiliation over the years -- besides, the Bluefield Orioles already redirects to the Bluefield Blue Jays. Merge them. CPAScott (talk) 17:16, 24 July 2021 (UTC)

• Oppose. No other Appy League team does this, since the franchises are all considered to be entirely new entities, with the minor league affiliates considered defunct. This also seems to be the practice on Wikipedia, where the new summer collegiate pages are separate from the minor league affiliated ones...I don't see why Bluefield should be any different from the others. Tom Danson (talk) 17:42, 16 July 2022 (UTC)

Support. The press release on the team's rebranding makes clear that the Ridge Runners are the same ownership, front office, everything. There isn't a separate page for the Bluefield Orioles. Why should there be one for the Ridge Runners? Aresef (talk) 01:04, 3 August 2022

Oppose I would consider this a soft oppose. The key distinction being that the Blue Jays were a professional minor league team with major league affiliations in their history, while the Ridge Runners are a newly created amateur summer collegiate team.Skilgis1900 (talk) 13:25, 3 August 2022 (UTC)

Oppose this as a stand-along proposal, given the set of similar teams with two pages. So, Bristol Pirates became Bristol State Liners; Burlington Royals became Burlington Sock Puppets; Danville Braves became Danville Otterbots; etc. So, oppose for now, without predjucing a broader discussion on the discussion of this league. Klbrain (talk) 16:17, 24 October 2022 (UTC)

Closing, given the uncontested objections with stale discussion. Klbrain (talk) 09:41, 26 November 2022 (UTC)