Talk:Blink-182 (album)/Archive 1

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Leslie Speaker

I don't think the vocals on "I'm Lost Without You" were recorded through a Leslie Speaker (which is here, identified solely as a "rotating speaker." The Leslie was used on the intro to "Asthenia." The vocals on "I'm lost..." don't bear the pitch/volume shift characteristics of a Leslie. --Jlee562 10:18, 30 January 2006 (UTC)

Storytime

I heard that this album and its songs go together in a sort of a story? Im sure I read an interview or something where one of the members said that their latest album (I assume they mean this) goes in a sort of a story, where you have to listen from the first song to the last song for it to make sense... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 210.11.82.107 (talkcontribs) 05:09, 13 March 2006 (UTC)

A concept album? similar to Green Day's American Idiot? hmmm... i'll need to listen to it again. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 146.151.17.200 (talkcontribs) 02:03, 4 October 2006 (UTC)
are you sure you dont mean box car racer? --Olir 00:33, 16 April 2007 (UTC)

Stockholm Syndrome

The bit of trivia about Muse having a song with the same name seems rather pointless, doesn't it? It looks like someone realized the two bands had the same song title, and wanted to spread the pointless knowledge. Interesting? Maybe. Pointless? Definitely. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 134.29.6.7 (talkcontribs) 14:26, 13 February 2007 (UTC)

I'd like to query the fact that the letters were read out at the end of violence. In the booklet which acompanies the album it clearly states these are at the beginning of stockholm syndrome. However some people may get confused, as because of the way the cd has been structured, cd ripping software rips these as the end of the violence track. For example, try putting your cd player on random. It will not play the letters at the end of violence, nor at the beginning of stockholm syndrome. I don't understand cd recording/playing enough to account for this, but the letters were definately intended for the beginning of stockholm syndrome. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.31.165.146 (talkcontribs) 16:29, 16 March 2007 (UTC)
Heh, sorry. (It must be in the pregap of Stockholm.) --The Mu 16:18, 18 March 2007 (UTC)
I think you'll find that when you do play it in order, that when it comes to the letter reading, the timer goes into negative timing, as if you set it to display the time left in the song. interestingly, i discovered once when i played this album on random that when the two songs happen to randomly be put next to each other (difficult to make happen in practice), it plays the letter reading sequence. --125.238.18.100 09:04, 30 April 2007 (UTC)
Hey this is a note to whoever keeps changing the page to say that the letters are read out at the end of violence. Why do you keep doing this? Blink have said it themselves that these letters are intended for the beginning of stockholm syndrome. It says in the album booklet. It says on many web sites that this is the case. It is also clear from the use of a pregap. If you want to change it to violence then you will need to state your reasons for doing so. If you have none besides the fact that when you rip the track off a cd it appears tacked on the end of violence then could you please stop changing it. I'm getting bored of changing it back. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.44.114.89 (talkcontribs) 22:27, 14 May 2007 (UTC)
That leads to one more question: whatever happened to UrSWIT? Anyway, it's so pointless to discuss it, seeing as one would also come and say that there's a Backyard Babies album with that same name. Nothing anyone should care about. --201.9.164.7 (talk) 12:19, 23 January 2008 (UTC)

Use Your Erection

Okay, let's set this straight: this was not a 'working title'. It was a joke! See [1]. It can be mentioned in the article, but not as a 'working title', and not on the first line! --GraafGeorge (talk) 23:30, 1 March 2008 (UTC)

WP:OR Section

Ok, this section is full of original research, interpretation and opinion. Needs a complete overhaul and some references.... --Nouse4aname (talk) 09:10, 2 July 2008 (UTC)

Extended content

Track Details

"Feeling This"
"Feeling This" was the first single from the album. An early version of the song, titled "Action", was included on soundtrack for the video game Madden NFL 2004, although the band never used this title.
"Obvious"
This song was meant to sound like "Failure meets Led Zeppelin meets The Police".[1]
"I Miss You"
"I Miss You" was released in March 2004 as the second single from the album. It was their most successful single of all time, reaching the #1 spot on the Billboard Modern Rock Chart and being certified platinum after selling over 200,000 copies.[citation needed]
"Violence"
The intro features a sample of "Theme from Ironside" by Quincy Jones. During the bridge section, Mark speaks a few lines very quietly behind Tom's vocals,"Who'll stand by your side? So watch my eyes. Watch 'em turn while you go change. Curtains down. When all their skill was cut, and I bled. There were forces of John Jones. I can't make you happy. It seems all i ever do is try. You could never cut me deep enough to leave a scar. So take this gift. It's somethin to save"
"Stockholm Syndrome"
This song is about paranoia, being afraid of the outside world and about being convinced that people can hear your thoughts.[2] The intro features Joanne Whalley reading letters that Mark Hoppus' grandfather wrote to his grandmother during World War II.[2]
"Down"
The third single from this album. The song peaked at #10 on the Billboard Modern Rock Chart.[citation needed]
"The Fallen Interlude"
This track was produced by Sick Jacken and the few lyrics were sung by Menno.

;"Go"

The most up-tempo song of the album, which, according to the liner notes, is deserved to be played loud.
"Asthenia"
The intro features NASA transmissions. According to Tom DeLonge, "This song is about one thing only, an astronaut sitting in a space capsule about the size of a car, floating above the earth. He's contemplating if coming back or not will make a difference on such a negative place. A song about the loss of hope. A term was coined for the breakdown of life in space and it is called Asthenia, the name of the track."[3] Some of the best sounds, according to the band, is Tom's guitar riff before the drums kick in about 50 seconds into Asthenia. This was recorded through a 1960s era Leslie speaker that had a tube dying out and glowing purple.[2]
"Always"
"Always" is the fourth and final single from the album. Delonge sings majority of the song, however Hoppus' backups can be heard in the outro.
"Easy Target"

This song is based around the story of one of the band's techs first crushes. Allegedly, the girl, who was named Holly, invited the band tech around to her house on a date. The tech rode his bicycle there as fast as he could, but upon arriving, Holly and her friends jumped out and sprayed him with a water hose. The tech went home, embarrassed and humiliated.[3] The story has also been brought up in past interviews, where allegedly, the girl Holly was actually Tom's first girlfriend, who left him for his older brother.[citation needed]

"All of This"
"All of This" was supposed to be the fifth single from the album, if the band didn't go on hiatus. On this song they collaborate with one their biggest inspirations: The Cure's frontman Robert Smith. The song was recorded on two continents, as Robert Smith recorded his part in England.[2] Holly was actually Tom's ex girlfriend who left him for his older brother. The lines "Use me, Holly", refer to her only going out with him in order to get closer to his brother.[citation needed]
"Here's Your Letter"
This song is about people's inability to communicate with one another and how words and explanations only confuse the issue.[2] Aside from Tom backing him up in the chorus, Mark Hoppus sings the entire song almost solo.
"I'm Lost Without You"
There are two drum solos layered on top of each other during the last 45 seconds of this song. Tom sings into a rotating microphone, which makes it sound like he's underwater.[3]
It's all in the liner notes of the album. Not really original research, I'd say. --GraafGeorge (talk) 09:26, 2 July 2008 (UTC)
Then it should be referenced as such. In addition, whether some of the material is even encyclopedic is questionable. I have struck through what I don't consider worthwhile above... —Preceding unsigned comment added by Nouse4aname (talkcontribs) 10:06, 2 July 2008 (UTC)
I've put in references where I think they are necessary. If we come to an agreement about what to put in and wat not, we'll put it back in the article. I do agree with most of what you've struck through. --GraafGeorge (talk) 12:33, 2 July 2008 (UTC)
Cool, good work. Is there anything that you think should be included that I have struck through? --Nouse4aname (talk) 12:35, 2 July 2008 (UTC)
Actually, you've done a great job with the references, so thanks for doing that. Unfortunately I don't have my copy to hand so couldn't verify the statements. Feel free to add it back if as you see fit, I will just explain the sections I scrubbed,:
  • Obvious - on second thoughts, if you can source this it could probably go in.
  • Violence - as a lyric, I would imagine these are copyrighted, so best not include these
  • Go - not really encyclopedic info in my opinion
  • Here's your letter - again, not really encyclopedic. Nothing notable about who sings the songs.
and I agree with keeping the I'm lost Without you info, as sourced info and having re-read it, it is informative. Thanks for the hard work. --Nouse4aname (talk) 12:51, 2 July 2008 (UTC)
'Obvious' is sourced now. I was in doubt about putting it in earlier. Maybe it's quite ok now? Still four {{cn}}'s. —Preceding unsigned comment added by GraafGeorge (talkcontribs) 23:22, 2 July 2008 (UTC)
Looks good to me. A few missing sources is better than not having had any! --Nouse4aname (talk) 12:57, 3 July 2008 (UTC)
Also, as you seem to have the album booklet to hand, could you sort out the personnel list (band and technical), that's the only thing missing from the checklist at the top of this page... --Nouse4aname (talk) 12:58, 3 July 2008 (UTC)
I did have the album booklet at hand, but not anymore. I'll have it again in september. I'll put this track info section back in the article. --GraafGeorge (talk) 16:35, 9 July 2008 (UTC)

Self-Titled or Untitled?

Isn't this album self titled? What is the display name when you rip a song from this cd? (i don't know) --69.136.111.181 23:29, 18 October 2005 (UTC)

I was always under the impression that it was untitled. This has caused a lot of confusion, with many people thinking it self-titled. There was an interview once that said it was untitled - I can't find it anywhere but I'll keep looking. --Dragonfly888 23:13, 21 October 2005 (UTC)
i totally thought this was eponymous. --JadenGuy 14:05, 22 February 2006 (UTC)
According to the official Web site, it is self-titled. --Cparker 04:17, 23 February 2006 (UTC)
it is NOT self titled. the band members have said this themselves. the article also clearly states that it was left untitled. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.231.141.91 (talkcontribs) 01:19, 10 March 2006 (UTC)
The album is untitled --WereWolf 15:56, 23 July 2006 (UTC)
There's people showing evidence that it is self-titled, and people simply stating that it's untitled. As for me, as far as I knew (basically from seeing the subtitles at the beggining of videos on Mtv and such) it is self-titled. Someone should just move it... or I'll do it later if I remember... VdSV9 19:38, 10 August 2006 (UTC)
The album is untitled [2] please do not move it from (untitled). th e reason it says its self titled on the official site is bacuase the artists have very little, if any control over the website. also, it is called "blink-182" to reduse confusion. but it is untitled so says mark, tom, and travis. --Worthlessboy1420 23:27, 25 September 2006 (UTC)
In the liner notes of blink-182's Greatest Hits, this is listed as 'blink-182', NOT 'Untitled'. --68.158.168.29 00:49, 10 November 2006 (UTC)
Mark Hoppus said: "...on the self-titled album..." Source, Point 8 --Abu-Dun 18:55, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

True, but the band doesnt have much control over a greatest hits album either, do they? and besides ALL MEMBERS OF THE BAND HAVE SAID IT'S UNTITLED NOT SELF-TITLED and that should be reason enough to say it's untitled... --125.238.18.100 09:00, 30 April 2007 (UTC)

its refered to as both an untitled and a self titled album --Olir 16:06, 7 May 2007 (UTC)
Everyone in favor of "untitled" says "the band has said so" -- can anyone say where they heard this? --Klondike 00:46, 28 June 2007 (UTC)
It says so here [3] --Tjwells 7:44, 13 July 2007 (UTC)
What the hell do you people mean, "until there is an official statement from a band member, we have to speculate? At the top of the article you mention Travis saying its Untitled! Jesus Christ..." —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.9.60.148 (talk) 23:02, 24 November 2007 (UTC)

I would hope direct quotes from the bandmates themselves would solve this problem. it really is untitled, no matter what some websites say. Here's a whole MTV article about how the album is untitled: [4]. I hope this will end the debate, but for some reason I doubt it. --Worthlessboy1420 (talk) 21:31, 15 July 2008 (UTC)

It's Untitled. MTV articles: "No Album Title, No Preconceptions: The New Blink-182" [5] "The release of "Always" has given the band's year-old untitled album unprecedented longevity. " [6] "Blink-182 is spotlighting their new untitled album..." [7] --Punkrocker27ka (talk) 01:27, 15 February 2009 (UTC)
In this case, we must go by what the label is naming the album. That is "Blink-182". You may check Interscope's website as well as Blink-182's website. Those are better sources for something like this. Please leave the page as it was until and if consensus is reached to change the name to untitled. By doing the copy/paste move, you deleted the whole history of the page. Timmeh! 19:14, 15 February 2009 (UTC)
Then I suppose that we shall change ALL album titles that only includes the band's name on the sleeve to "Untitled" and start calling them "Untitled" as well? (The Clash, Elvis Presley, Van Halen and the Weezer albums to name a few of them). That's just a waste of time and effort into making the articles on Wikipedia and album titles more confusing!
And by the way, why is it just this particular album that people wants to change the name on? I say just call it "Blink-182" in real life and "Blink-182 (album)" here on Wiki. --A3oertENG (talk) 23:00, 6 November 2009 (UTC)
When the album was released the band said it was Untitled: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5RcolWz6oK8 (approx 30 seconds in). 76.84.112.241 (talk) 01:44, 7 February 2010 (UTC)

I have two videos from the time of the album's release saying the album is untitled. The first video the band clearly corrects the interviewer, saying the album is not self-titled, but untitled. The second video also points to this fact. [8] [9]

The editors can do want they want, but if they want accuracy, untitled is correct. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.255.240.57 (talk) 05:38, 27 January 2012 (UTC)

The horse is dead. Move along. --IllaZilla (talk) 06:19, 27 January 2012 (UTC)

Request to Merge

I would like to make "Untitled Blink-182 album" the main page for that record instead of the self-titled page that is currently the main one. All Blink fans who know the truth that it is Untitled please show your support here so we can make this happen. --Punkrocker27ka (talk) 20:37, 15 February 2009 (UTC)

Wikipedia is not a Democracy, buddy. Blink fans are not reliable sources. Please see WP:RS, and I suggest you read the other core Wikipedia policies as well. Also, here's another MTV source (more recent and after the actual release of the album) that says it is self-titled: [10] Here are some other sources: the label website, their Facebook profile, Amazon.com, Metacritic, RollingStone. The overwhelming majority of reliable and credible sources clearly state the album is eponymous, not untitled. --Timmeh! 22:39, 15 February 2009 (UTC)
Don't forget Billboard, not only in their profile but also their discography and chart history. And the RIAA, who awarded them both gold & platinum certifications for Blink-182, not untitled. --IllaZilla (talk) 09:24, 16 February 2009 (UTC)
Can't we put a block on this? I've seen the moves and redirects happen dozens of times over the past year or so. It's really quite annoying, people have to pull out the links to prove something which is really just a waste of time. The name is simply on the cover, just like any other eponymous album, are we going to call of them untitled just because they don't specify the name; eg. Blink 182 by Blink 182? An interview isn't grounds for this argument. k-i-a-c (hitmeup - the past) 13:15, 16 February 2009 (UTC)
I agree, this is really dumb. It's not like Blink-182 are the first band to ever put out an eponymous album. This has been done by hundreds of other artists. When the artist's name appears on the cover, and there is no other title, it's eponymous by default. I'll see if we can get a moveblock in place. --IllaZilla (talk) 17:12, 16 February 2009 (UTC)
Actually no, it's not eponymous by default. Examples: [[11]] [[12]] [[13]] --Punkrocker27ka (talk) 19:20, 16 February 2009 (UTC)
You'll notice the allmusic source for the Korn album actually lists it as untitled. The same website lists the Blink-182 album as Blink-182. The source on the Dance Gavin Dance article contradicts the text and says it is "self-titled". Timmeh! 19:25, 16 February 2009 (UTC)
I checked the Korn album for comparison when I was checking Billboard. Billboard lists the Korn album as Untitled [14] [15], but lists this album as Blink-182 [16] [17]. Numerous reliable secondary sources verify this. --IllaZilla (talk) 19:48, 16 February 2009 (UTC)
FYI, Billboard also lists the Nas album as Nas [18], though in their chart history they list it as untitled [19]. They list the Dance Gavin Dance album as Dance Gavin Dance both on the album page [20] and the chart history [21]. --IllaZilla (talk) 23:19, 16 February 2009 (UTC)
I give up.......but Billboard is a horrible source fyi. --Punkrocker27ka (talk) 19:51, 17 February 2009 (UTC)
Sure...Billboard and the RIAA, the major organizations in the music industry responsible for tracking and certifying album sales, who work closely with all of the major record labels, are horrible sources. Riiiiight. --IllaZilla (talk) 20:10, 17 February 2009 (UTC)
As compared to aaaaall of the sources you provided? 3 links to other wiki pages with debatable 'untitled' albums. k-i-a-c (hitmeup - the past) 04:28, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

←As you mentioned earlier the discrepancy with the Nas album on Billboard's website. Not exactly reassuring...--Punkrocker27ka (talk) 04:54, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

I'd personally prefer a move back to "Blink-182's fifth studio album", as that was the original compromise title, if the naming debate is divisive and the band are split/ambivalent on either. Then again, I do have to admit that the sources for untitled are poor. Sceptre (talk) 17:48, 24 February 2009 (UTC)
"Compromise" among Wikipedia editors ≠ fact. The fact is that nearly every reliable source catalogs and refers to this album as Blink-182 (Billboard, the RIAA, Amazon, Metacritic, Rolling Stone, Allmusic, the record label, even the band's own website and Facebook profile). No amount of compromise or consensus can override a preponderance of such reliable sources. Yes, there are interviews (from before the album came out) in which the band members state that they were not going to put a title on the album. But when the album was actually released it had the words Blink-182 on the cover, and every source since its release has referred to it by that name. Moving the article to another title, in light of the overwhelming number of reliable sources, would be wholly inappropriate and would only be caving to the demands of "Blink fans who [think they] know the truth" and will not be satisified with anything else, despite being buried by a mountain of contrary evidence. --IllaZilla (talk) 19:39, 24 February 2009 (UTC)

"Band"

I would like to address this edit by Gunmetal Angel (talk · contribs), in which it is claimed that "every other article on the site uses this format" and that "they are not a band. A band is four members or more." Both of these statements are totally inaccurate. Disputing the first claim merely requires finding a single article that uses a different format. Of course there are many, but I'll just stick within the FAs: A Weekend in the City, Fantasy Black Channel, Intimacy (Bloc Party album), Rumours, Silent Alarm, and Tragic Kingdom. My point is that there is no standard or manual of style for this, so you can't make the claim that there's a project-wide consensus on a particular style. As for the claim that "a band is four members or more", you might want to check musical ensemble, or better yet, Merriam-Webster: "a group of musicians organized for ensemble playing". There is no magic number required to use the term "band". I'm sure that Motörhead, Big Black, The Lawrence Arms, Jawbreaker, MxPx, Tiger Army, the Nekromantix, The White Stripes, and The Black Keys (to pick just a few artists off my shelves) would be surprised to learn that they are no longer (or weren't ever) bands, to say nothing of Blink-182 themselves. --IllaZilla (talk) 14:21, 14 July 2010 (UTC)

Dead external links to Allmusic website – January 2011

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Requested page move

Please move this article to blink-182 (album). All wp:rs and all album titles show the ensemble name with a small "b" and this eponymous album also with a small "b".[22] I have already corrected the prose within the article. Thanks - My76Strat (talk) 04:36, 10 March 2012 (UTC)

A page move is not required, and in fact is not possible; the first letter of article titles are not case sensitive. Please look at this diff to see how I got the title to display correctly. Regards, --Dianna (talk) 05:30, 10 March 2012 (UTC)
Thank you for that information. I appreciate your assistance and will incorporate your advice going forward. Best - My76Strat (talk) 06:17, 10 March 2012 (UTC)
Please also see Wikipedia:Manual of Style (trademarks). Wikipedia uses standard English capitalization for proper nouns regardless of the preferences of trademark holders. --IllaZilla (talk) 10:01, 10 March 2012 (UTC)

'Asthenia' NASA transmissions correction

The current Wiki article reads: "Real NASA transmissions from the Apollo 11 space flight are used in the opening of "Asthenia"...".

This is incorrect, however, as I discovered in research I did a few summers ago (I'm a huge space and blink-182 geek). The dead giveaways are the audible "gumdrop" in the beginning of the song, which indicates a reference to the command module Gumdrop, a CSM only used on Apollo 9.

Here's the actual transcript from the official NASA Apollo 9 Technical Air-to-Ground voice transcription, available in the original format here (relevant section begins on page 131 at 01 20 03 57, or as a searchable Scribd.com document here. If you remove the bass from the song's intro using an audio editing application, it becomes very easy to follow the dialogue exchange.

Transcript

GUMDROP: Go ahead, Spider. Gumdrop here.
SPIDER: Rodger. Do you want the tape off now, also?
[pong]
GUMDROP: It doesn't say so. Seems like a good idea, though.
SPIDER: Yes. Tape coming off.
[pong]
[ping]
HOUSTON: And Spider, Gumdrop..-
[ping]
GUMDROP: Okay. We're configuring the CSM now for the--
SPIDER: Go ahead, Jim.
GUMDROP: --LM data, and we want you to go to TELEMETRY LOW.
SPIDER: Rodger. We're TELEMETRY LOW.
[pong]
GUMDROP: VHF B transmitter to DATA and VHF B receiver OFF.
SPIDER: Rodger. Got it.
GUMDROP. Okay. We've already done the antenna checks.
SPIDER: Just a second.
[ping]
HOUSTON: Spider, this is Houston. Could you give us high bit rate, please?
[ping]
SPIDER: Rodger. Houston, Spider. High bit rate. How do you read Houston?
HOUSTON: I read you five-square... [song cuts in]

--Ricodued (talk) 01:27, 17 April 2012 (UTC)

Letters title

Is there a separate title for the letters that are read before Stockholm Syndrome, or is it just an untitled segment? DanielDPeterson + talk 20:20, 14 June 2012 (UTC)

I believe it's an untitled segment. It's not listed on the tracklist or in the liner notes. There's just a note explaining where the letters came from; the segment isn't given a title. --IllaZilla (talk) 20:24, 14 June 2012 (UTC)

Alternate cover

IllaZilla, I see what you mean about the "tour edition" cover I've added recently, I'm not too sure about it though. But what will happen from now? Will the cover be ever used for future use? Or will it be deleted? — ıʇɐʞǝɐdʌɐиƭɐqǝoɟʎouɹqoɐʇ [] 09:00, 29 July 2012 (UTC)

As an unused non-free file, it will be automatically deleted. --IllaZilla (talk) 15:14, 29 July 2012 (UTC)

Assessment comment

The comment(s) below were originally left at Talk:Blink-182 (album)/Comments, and are posted here for posterity. Following several discussions in past years, these subpages are now deprecated. The comments may be irrelevant or outdated; if so, please feel free to remove this section.

Article requirements:

 Y All the start class criteria
 Y A completed infobox, including cover art and most technical details
 Y At least one section of prose (excluding the lead section)
 Y A track listing containing track lengths and authors for all songs
 Y A full list of personnel, including technical personnel and guest musicians
 Y Categorisation at least by artist and year
 Y A casual reader should learn something about the album.

Thardin12 (talk) 12:48, October 16, 2010 (UTC)

Last edited at 17:50, 16 October 2010 (UTC). Substituted at 14:23, 1 May 2016 (UTC)

Demo Clarification

Should someone mention something about this albums demos that can be found online? They are technically not demos just mobile phone recordings some fan made at a concert. But I believe that it is worthwhile mentioning this to clarify it for fans and readers. Exactly like what was done with the unofficial and fanmade "Buddha Promo" Simdude1990 (talk) 11:07, 29 July 2012 (UTC)

Mobile phone recordings made by some fan at a concert? Wholly irrelevant. --IllaZilla (talk) 15:14, 29 July 2012 (UTC)

Mystery

We all know that "Violence" goes for 5:20. When played on my iTunes and iPod the interlude is played. But other day I've noticed that when listening to the CD in my car and my radio the interlude skips and goes into "Stockholm Syndrome". Should this be noted somewhere? Also, what might be the reason for this? --124.184.245.127 (talk) 12:46, 12 September 2012 (UTC)

It's a quirk of some CD players. If I recall correctly the interlude is not part of track 4, but is "hidden" in the pregap of track 5 (I may be wrong; I haven't listened to the disc in a long time). Some CD players—including, I believe, many car players—are not able to read pregap tracks. I don't think this is worth noting in the article; It's a quirk of the CD player being used rather than a quirk of the disc, and it's certainly not unique to this album: I have several CDs with pregap tracks that none of my current CD players will read; I have to dig out my decade-old discman if I want to hear them. --IllaZilla (talk) 00:06, 14 September 2012 (UTC)
Ah ok. Yes, I too have other albums with pregap tracks. But I have found out that when I put the track "Violence" on repeat on my CD player the interlude is played. But when I don't put that single track on repeat, like I said it skips. And while it's on repeat and playing the interlude and I take it off repeat it goes into "Stockholm Syndrome" after the interlude is played. --121.217.137.22 (talk) 01:46, 14 September 2012 (UTC)
I just put the disc into my CD player to have a look. Track 4 ("Violence") ends at 3:39. The interlude then begins in the pregap of track 5, with the display reading -1:40 and counting down to 0:00, at which point "Stockholm Syndrome" kicks in and the display begins counting upward. I do not know why your CD player behaves differently. It's possible that it reads the "end" of track 4 as being the track separation at the beginning of "Stockholm Syndrome" (the point where my player reads 0:00 at the end of the interlude), or it may be that it reads that track separator as the beginning of track 5, ignoring the pregap. Various CD players behave differently with these sorts of things, and it can be very difficult to diagnose the issue. As I like to say, "your mileage may vary". --IllaZilla (talk) 04:44, 14 September 2012 (UTC)
Mine does something similar to yours. But my counter counts backwards while the interlude plays when I do the "repeat trick". Meaning it starts from 1:40 to 0:00, when normally with other tracks it starts from 0:00 to depending how long a song goes for. --121.217.137.22 (talk) 07:19, 14 September 2012 (UTC)

Writers

Why are there some notes after the title tracks in the track listing with the name of some members of the band ? Are they the writer names of the tracks ? Yet, there's already a section on the right named Writer(s).

That's not very clear... — Preceding unsigned comment added by MX140 (talkcontribs) 19:48, 29 March 2015 (UTC)

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  1. ^ Barker, Travis (2003). Blink-182 (Media notes). Geffen. pp. p.2. {{cite AV media notes}}: |format= requires |url= (help); |pages= has extra text (help); Unknown parameter |bandname= ignored (help)
  2. ^ a b c d e Hoppus, Mark (2003). Blink-182 (Media notes). Geffen. pp. p.4. {{cite AV media notes}}: |format= requires |url= (help); |pages= has extra text (help); Unknown parameter |bandname= ignored (help) Cite error: The named reference "mark" was defined multiple times with different content (see the help page).
  3. ^ a b c DeLonge, Tom (2003). Blink-182 (Media notes). Geffen. pp. p.5. {{cite AV media notes}}: |format= requires |url= (help); |pages= has extra text (help); Unknown parameter |bandname= ignored (help) Cite error: The named reference "tom" was defined multiple times with different content (see the help page).