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Blasphemy in Islam
editBlasphemy in Islam Blasphemy in Islam constitutes speaking ill of Muhammad, of any other prophet mentioned in the Qur'an, or of any Biblical prophets. Speaking ill of Allah is also blasphemy. Blasphemy is considered a very serious offence and may be punishable by death if charges are proven. British author Salman Rushdie's novel The Satanic Verses was seen by many Muslims to contain blasphemies against Islam, and Iranian clerical leader Ayatollah Khomeini issued a fatwa in 1989 calling for Rushdie's death. More recently, the Jyllands-Posten Muhammad cartoons were criticised in part on the basis that they were blasphemous against Muhamed.
This paragraph says "Blasphemy is considered a very serious offence and may be punishable by death if charges are proven". Which country is this effective? Can the author make this clear?
Paris Hilton?
editIn this article, it is written in the section "Blasphemy in Islam" that "Paris Hilton's existence is a blasphemy for most people" or something like that. This is surely innappropriate. User:DYBoulet July 29 2007 10:19 AM (AST)
Examples
editExamples would be super good!
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Do Dharmic religions have the concept of Blasphemy?
editAs a Hindu, I find the assertion that Dharmic religions do not have the concept of blasphemy extremely dubious, and I am sure most Hindus, Buddhists, and Jains would agree with me. The article cited for this claim is rediff.com, not exactly very high quality scholarship. 73.73.127.102 (talk) 01:19, 23 January 2023 (UTC)
- I'm not an expert on Dharmic religions, would we also remove the cited content in the section or rewrite it? Plures caeli (talk) 22:24, 9 February 2023 (UTC)
- As a Hindu living in the US, and having lived in the Middle East, I’ve seen what blasphemy laws are with most religions.
- I believe the content is correct and that Dharmik religions do not have blasphemy laws. I also consulted a Buddhist teacher who is originally from Vietnam but runs a temple in my city, and she agreed that Buddhism does not have blasphemy laws either. Since the source of these religions is one, i.e. Sanatan Dharma, the quoted text is true😎🙃 184.144.215.18 (talk) 07:52, 5 January 2024 (UTC)
- Blasphemy or Ninda of the Devas, Gurus, the Vedas and other Shastras, and more is a real in Sanatan Dharm or Hinduism just do a quick search on Google for evidence in the Shastras and you will realize and you can find and all of the different Punishments and effects of the Ninda of Devas, Gurus, the Vedas and other Shastras, and more.
- It’s almost like they trying to silence or stop me because they promised me I could re-add what I wrote when I gave sources but even though I have sources now these people who run the site banned me from editing this article forever which they very wrong for doing
- हर हर महादेव जी Ekdothinchaar (talk) 23:30, 28 June 2024 (UTC)
- Actually nevermind I won’t say anything until I get a reply back let me see if they allow me or not before I say anything Ekdothinchaar (talk) 23:44, 28 June 2024 (UTC)
Dharmic Religions
editThe article says that Hinduism, Buddhism, & Jainism have no qualms against their deities being blasphemed. I have found a few links that refute this:
[1]https://theworld.org/stories/2021-03-09/thai-organization-s-crusade-against-blaspheming-buddha
[2]https://www.hindujagruti.org/hindu-issues/india-wants-blasphemy-law Splashen (talk) 19:06, 1 April 2023 (UTC)
- @Splashen You got sources. Be bold. Write it in… These need to be attributed as views, and not matters-of-fact either way. (e.g. "In the view of Individual X, blasphemy is ABC. While Person Z holds the opposing view of 123" kinda thing)
- The current sourcing saying no blasphemy is weak (is rediff.com even reliable for these claims?), and partially tagged as nonexistent. Last part of paragraph is well-sourced, so leave that, and try to make it, and the new content mesh well together. Happy Trails! -- dsprc [talk] 21:43, 1 April 2023 (UTC)
Refs
editDefinition in Wikivoice?
editFollowing part of definition in WP:WIKIVOICE sounds like providing legitimacy to contention that 'Blasphemy is a crime', effectively reimposing and naturalizing notion and Wikipedia's support to the same.
Blasphemy is a speech crime and religious crime..
IMO this needs some rephrasing or adding according to whom. Bookku (talk) 12:33, 1 May 2023 (UTC)
- That text is the result of some rather dramatic, undiscussed changes made last December. I agree that it's inappropriate, and have reverted the article to the wording that was there previously. HiLo48 (talk) 00:58, 2 May 2023 (UTC)
Proposed correction to the term "Blasphemy"
editAccording to the Holy Bible (King James Version, NKJV, NIV, etc..) the bible openly states only 2 ways to commit blasphemy against God.
1) Making yourself equal to God (John 10:33); see also Isaiah 46:9-11. 2) Claiming to forgive the sins of others. (Mark 2:7, Luke 5:21) a. All of us, everyone is a sinner (Romans 3:10-12 and 3:23, Psalm 53:1-3). It is impossible for any man, being a sinner, to forgive the sins of others. Any claim to do so is blasphemy. It is a usurpation of Gods’ authority. Only God Himself, being perfect and without sin, has the power and authority to forgive sins. Insulting religion or showing disrespect to God is not true biblical blasphemy. It is an unfortunate side-effect of our own sinful nature. However, if you were to present yourself to God (in prayer for example), asking Him directly (God is omnipresent, Colossians 1:17) for forgiveness of such sins as these, He is the only one on Earth who has the power and authority to truly forgive your sins (1 John 1-9, Proverbs 28:13 96.18.17.211 (talk) 01:23, 11 June 2023 (UTC)
They promised that I could write if I cited sources but now I did but it said im blocked forever?
editCan the admins allow me to add what I wanted to say about Blasphemy in Sanatan Dharm or Hinduism now because I have sources for all of my writing now. Ekdothinchaar (talk) 23:33, 28 June 2024 (UTC)