Talk:Black powder substitute
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More punch
editPyrodex powder works great with my 50 Cal rifle. But is there nmore punch" in blackpowder?Dated/Decided! Sn.June28,2009 21st centDr.Edson Andre' Johnson D.D.ULC>SWORDINHAND (talk) 01:24, 29 June 2009 (UTC)
Does Pyrodex offer "more punch" than black powder. That depends. In one sense, a pound of Pyrodex makes more charges by volume equivalence than a pound of black powder. Otherwise:
Lyman Black Powder Handbook & Loading Manual, Lyman Products Corp, 2001. .50 Caliber Muzzleloading Rifle with Barrel length: 28 inches; .50 caliber sabot with .430" 240 grain bullet (common deer hunting projectile); Volume equivalent of 100 grains of FFg (common recommended deer hunting charge): Muzzle Powder type Velocity Pressure Black Powder Goex FFg 1563 fps 8,400 PSI Black Powder Elephant FFg 1555 fps 9,500 PSI Substitute Pyrodex RS 1559 fps 11,200 PSI Substitute Pyrodex Select 1673 fps 10,000 PSI
Lyman makes bullets and tested the common brands of powder with their bullets with these results. They have no pony in the powder race, in other words. The book lists literally hundreds of load/bullet combinations, but this bullet and charge are commonly recommended for and by deer hunters, and makes a reasonable comparison for the four powders. The slightly higher velocity, but significantly lower pressure of the Goex BP and the Pyrdodex Select appear to be an anomoly; however, they reflect lower pressure but longer burn time. Naaman Brown (talk) 15:23, 2 November 2009 (UTC)
- What about corrosion? After combustion, potassium perchlorate gives potassium chloride which is very corrosive to metals... --FK1954 (talk) 17:15, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
- The cleaning regimen for Pyrodex is similar to that for cartridge ammunition using the old-fashioned corrosive primers which also contained potassiium chlorate: water to dissolve and remove the chloride salts from the barrel and exposed metal surfaces of the action, followed by oiling (and periodic inspection). (This is also common practice when using traditional black powder.) Naaman Brown (talk) 15:43, 28 April 2011 (UTC)
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editThe article appears to focus on Pyrodex and may need to be changed to reflect this. otherwise, including more information on black powder substitutes other than Pyrodex may be needed Rotarypants (talk) 15:47, 26 February 2024 (UTC)