Talk:Black Ops
Latest comment: 4 years ago by TonyBallioni in topic Requested move 3 July 2019
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Requested move 3 July 2019
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The result of the move request was: no consensus. TonyBallioni (talk) 17:39, 29 July 2019 (UTC)
Black Ops (disambiguation) → Black Ops – Per WP:DIFFCAPS. The real life "black operation" is spelled with lowercase letters. ZXCVBNM (TALK) 14:11, 3 July 2019 (UTC) --Relisting. — Newslinger talk 21:39, 10 July 2019 (UTC) I invite Gonnym to respond to WP:DIFFCAPS, a policy that explicitly allows titles like these, and In ictu oculi to explain their opinion further. --Relisting. KSFT (t|c) 22:59, 20 July 2019 (UTC)
- Oppose to having Black Ops and Black ops lead to two different articles. Don't oppose the dab page being the primary of both. --Gonnym (talk) 22:17, 3 July 2019 (UTC)
- @KSFT: I WP:IAR when it comes to the idiotic WP:DIFFCAPS which only creates more confusion and more pointless RMs, and which does not even have a real support from the community, seeing as a majority of editors wanted to change it in this RfC (that but of course closed as "no consensus". shocking). WP:DIFFCAPS has been again and again been opposed by editors in RMs. Also, just to continue driving the point home, a simple google search brought these news sources that use the capital O: NY Times, Huffpost, Truthout--Gonnym (talk) 08:16, 21 July 2019 (UTC)
- Just because a journalist has poor spelling skills doesn't mean it's correct. Black ops is not a proper noun. WP:IAR also doesn't include "ignoring an established consensus that has yet to be overturned because I don't like it".ZXCVBNM (TALK) 11:29, 21 July 2019 (UTC)
- Actually, IAR does exactly say that. In case you missed it in all the text that policy has, I'll quote it for you:
If a rule prevents you from improving or maintaining Wikipedia, ignore it
. Also, as I've shown in the RFC link, WP:DIFFCAPS does not have any consensus. --Gonnym (talk) 14:28, 23 July 2019 (UTC)- Again, IAR is meant to be applied on a case by case basis, if you are held up by bureaucracy. IAR doesn't give you wide authority to contradict the rules all the time because you don't realy like them. See WP:NOTIAR. There is no evidence DIFFCAPS hinders the development of Wikipedia.ZXCVBNM (TALK) 17:47, 23 July 2019 (UTC)
- Actually, IAR does exactly say that. In case you missed it in all the text that policy has, I'll quote it for you:
- Just because a journalist has poor spelling skills doesn't mean it's correct. Black ops is not a proper noun. WP:IAR also doesn't include "ignoring an established consensus that has yet to be overturned because I don't like it".ZXCVBNM (TALK) 11:29, 21 July 2019 (UTC)
- @KSFT: I WP:IAR when it comes to the idiotic WP:DIFFCAPS which only creates more confusion and more pointless RMs, and which does not even have a real support from the community, seeing as a majority of editors wanted to change it in this RfC (that but of course closed as "no consensus". shocking). WP:DIFFCAPS has been again and again been opposed by editors in RMs. Also, just to continue driving the point home, a simple google search brought these news sources that use the capital O: NY Times, Huffpost, Truthout--Gonnym (talk) 08:16, 21 July 2019 (UTC)
- Oppose give that it's a form of abbreviation, for some reason it does get capitalized. In ictu oculi (talk) 07:33, 4 July 2019 (UTC)
- Support per WP:DIFFCAPS. Readers capitalizing the O in Ops are likely looking for a titled thing. -- JHunterJ (talk) 13:04, 9 July 2019 (UTC)
- Support per JHunterJ and nom. Calidum 03:11, 21 July 2019 (UTC)
- Oppose. The capitalization is just a source of confusion. The primary topic is the same. —BarrelProof (talk) 06:24, 21 July 2019 (UTC)
- Oppose. The military term is often capitalised. -- Necrothesp (talk) 13:38, 24 July 2019 (UTC)
- Support per Calidum and Red Meat etc. Crouch, Swale (talk) 19:16, 24 July 2019 (UTC)
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