Talk:Black honeyeater
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Spelling
editNot sure of the best spelling of Emu Bush, emu bush or emu-bush. My feeling is that when it refers to the genus Eremophila, or a subset thereof, the choice should be for 'emu-bush' or 'emu-bushes', and for a species with a common name using the noun with a qualifier, it should be 'Xxxx Emu-bush'. However, many may disagree and, as long as usage is consistent within the article, it probably does not matter too much. Maias (talk) 02:29, 19 May 2010 (UTC)
- I'd say emu bush (small letters, no hyphen. Some times caps are seen, but we've recently been moving bio articles to lower case in many cases. Casliber (talk · contribs) 02:41, 19 May 2010 (UTC)
- OK, thanks; so emended. Maias (talk) 05:14, 19 May 2010 (UTC)
- I think this edit changes the meaning, implying that there are bushes associated with emus, rather than that there are a number of related shrubs that are referred to as emu bush. "have a long curved bill to reach the base of tubular flowers such as those of emu bushes" The plural just sounds odd. Marj (talk) 06:24, 19 May 2010 (UTC)
- Not sure what to do about that. I was not trying to mandate a particular style - just trying to get the spelling consistent throughout. That's the problem with non-capitalised common names - the ambiguities that can show up. Maias (talk) 12:43, 19 May 2010 (UTC)
- Lower case singular throughout - like mulga and mallee, you don't have mulgas and mallees. Marj (talk) 02:59, 20 May 2010 (UTC)
Comments prior to GAN
edit- Breeding season. HBW has the breeding season as Jul-December, mostly Aug to Nov. This is quite different from the time cited in the article. I assume the cited story was based on a single location and HBW is based on many subsequent studies/observations. Sabine's Sunbird talk 20:47, 30 August 2011 (UTC)
- Sorry, what is HBW? Marj (talk) 21:45, 30 August 2011 (UTC)
- I'm sorry, it is the Handbook of the Birds of the World, which is a massive project covering every bird in the world. The HBW cites the paper cited for the dates of the breeding season, but presumably has access to more in addition. Sabine's Sunbird talk 21:58, 30 August 2011 (UTC)
- Thanks, I'll see what HANZAB the Aus and NZ version says - I have access to it but not HBW. Marj (talk) 22:02, 30 August 2011 (UTC)
- If you want I can add and cite the information after work. Sabine's Sunbird talk 22:04, 30 August 2011 (UTC)
- That would be great, thanks Marj (talk) 00:04, 31 August 2011 (UTC)
- If you want I can add and cite the information after work. Sabine's Sunbird talk 22:04, 30 August 2011 (UTC)
- Thanks, I'll see what HANZAB the Aus and NZ version says - I have access to it but not HBW. Marj (talk) 22:02, 30 August 2011 (UTC)
- I'm sorry, it is the Handbook of the Birds of the World, which is a massive project covering every bird in the world. The HBW cites the paper cited for the dates of the breeding season, but presumably has access to more in addition. Sabine's Sunbird talk 21:58, 30 August 2011 (UTC)
- Sorry, what is HBW? Marj (talk) 21:45, 30 August 2011 (UTC)
- We typically mention the genus in the lead if it's a monotypic genus. The lead should also follow the same structure as the article, so it should have diet ahead of breeding, as it is in the article. Sabine's Sunbird talk 20:53, 30 August 2011 (UTC)
- Thanks, didn't know that. Marj (talk) 21:45, 30 August 2011 (UTC)
GA Review
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Reviewer: Jimfbleak (talk • contribs • count) 13:35, 6 September 2011 (UTC)
OK, I'll do this too. Comments to follow Jimfbleak - talk to me? 13:35, 6 September 2011 (UTC)
- female is a speckled grey-brown and immature birds look like the female. — I'd be inclined to replace "and" with a semicolon
- Myzomela — Give the origin of this name since you've done it for nigra
- Previously classified...—is it possible to split this rambling sentence?
- The Black Honeyeater ...They are dependent — changes from singular to plural
- 15 millimetres (0.59 in) eggs — do you have the width of the eggs too?
- Be consistent in your refs, eg
- J.M. Peter and W.K. Steele — other co-authors are surname-initials
- 11040–11045, but 1133–43
Jimfbleak - talk to me? 09:23, 7 September 2011 (UTC)
- Thanks for this feedback, Jimfbleak. These are all done Marj (talk) 19:55, 7 September 2011 (UTC)
- I think I'll take a photo of an emu bush, given that these birds are uncharacteristically on a Jacaranda.Marj (talk) 19:55, 7 September 2011 (UTC)
Review
edit- It is reasonably well written.
- a (prose): b (MoS):
- It is factually accurate and verifiable.
- a (references): b (citations to reliable sources): c (OR):
- It is broad in its coverage.
- a (major aspects): b (focused):
- It follows the neutral point of view policy.
- Fair representation without bias:
- It is stable.
- No edit wars etc.:
- It is illustrated by images, where possible and appropriate.
- a (images are tagged and non-free images have fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):
- Overall:
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