Talk:Black & Blue (Backstreet Boys album)

Latest comment: 3 years ago by Ferbandphineas18 in topic Unexplained lead section edit

Sales details (from Backstreet Boys Discography discussion page) edit

Black & Blue sales edit

Once again, the data is incorrect. You have referenced 3 sites that are quoting the same source, and as said before, these are forums where the data is disputed. Therefore before changing again, please actually reseach. As I have shown, 30 million is a credible figure for Millennium. Although some say this figure is also inflated. So, let us look at sales figures compared to Millenium. In the USA - the biggest market, Black & Blue sold only 60% of the sales for Millennium [1]. In the 2nd biggest market of the UK, Black & Blue sold only 100,000 copies [2]. This is 30% of what Millenium achieved [3]. Look at Germany, another stronghold for BSB, Millenium sold 200,000 under Roughtrade label, and 300,000 under Zomba label [4], whereas Black and Blue sold 200,000 only [5] = 40%. Another one - Australia. Millennium sold 210,000 whereas Black and Blue sold 70,000 [6]. Again, 30%. You can see that sales for Black & Blue would be closer to 50% of Millennium NOT 80% as your figure of 24 million suggests. I have therefore reverted it. 60.234.242.196 10:50, 22 March 2007 (UTC)Reply

I refer you to the 2001 IFPI Recording Association for 2001 [7]. On page 5 it states that Black & Blue was the 10th biggest chart topping album of the year. If you research the sales for an album that was similar i.e. Madonna's - Music. This sold 13m worldwide (refer links to this on the Madonna Discography discussion page), Red Hot Chili Peppers - Californication has sold 15m to date. [8], Eminem's The Marshall Mathers LP, which did far better than Black and Blue, sold 19m [9] to date. This once again is showing that Black and Blue sales 'are likely' to be in the same vicinity, and NOT 24m. 60.234.242.196 22:20, 31 March 2007 (UTC)Reply


The above is considered original research, so cannot be used. However, the 24 million figure is equally wrong, so from a topic board / forum, not from a verified source, so are removing it. 146.171.254.66 (talk) 23:42, 17 December 2007 (UTC)Reply

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Unexplained lead section edit edit

@Ferbandphineas18: Can you explain your edit here? I believe that it is not necessary to mention this in the lead section, considering that it is not relevant to the article, and is already stated in the album chronology. Since you have restored my two reverted edits without any explanation, I thought that you may respond to me here. Thank you. — Angryjoe1111 (talk) 06:12, 25 January 2021 (UTC)Reply

I responded to you for your page but i was fixing some edits that tweaked a bit for your page because I'm already stated the album chronology and I wanted to keep it that way, okay! Ferbandphineas18 (talk) 06:17, 25 January 2021 (UTC)Reply

Just let me do the work and then you deserve it, okay! Ferbandphineas18 (talk) 06:19, 25 January 2021 (UTC)Reply

@Ferbandphineas18: I have not received any reply, which is why I brought the issue to the talk page. I do not understand what you are trying to say, but Wikipedia is a collaborative website. There is no reason to believe that you can claim any article as your own, or believe that it belongs to anyone in particular, not even myself. No one owns any article on Wikipedia, as it is designed to be edited by anyone. In regards to your edit summaries, "Word Correction" vaguely describes what your edit is and is not even accurate since you acknowledged above that you added an extra sentence. In addition, you have placed repeated wikilinks to the sentence on Millennium (Backstreet Boys album) here: US debut album, Backstreet Boys (1997) and their second internationally released album, Backstreet's Back (1997), since you have basically linked the same articles back-to-back, which clutters the page. While I appreciate your bold edits, there is no reason to include previous albums in the lead section, unless it is sourced in the sections below or is crucial to the album's development. There is also no need for snide remarks at the end of each sentence. — Angryjoe1111 (talk) 06:46, 25 January 2021 (UTC)Reply

Sorry about that, I'll try to be careful not with your reviews to your response, alright! Ferbandphineas18 (talk) 07:01, 25 January 2021 (UTC)Reply