Talk:Birgit Kos

Improving this article

I would like to work with other editors to help in improve this article. In my view, there are some unsourced claims as well as a reliance on sources which are on the blog/user edited end of the scale. Also, some are tiny "model bio" entries on a list of multiple models. I would like to improve this by adding more credible sources. I also have an idea for obtaining a profile photo for the article. One of the most notable lack of sources is Kos' birthday. Where did it come from? I am not a specialist in fashion so I will likely need help in getting this right. Trillfendi has told me Models.com is more reliable than IMDB. If so, how do we establish that? So far it looks like registered accounts can make edits. Initially, I intend to improve the existing citations and also add things from sources which I have already found from reliable sources. I welcome any help and comments. Cheers, --SVTCobra (talk) 21:31, 31 May 2019 (UTC)

I have tidied all the sources and their citation templates, however, much work continues to be needed. The career section, especially the early part is very confusing in my opinion. It appears to jump back and forth as for what was happening and some of it conflicts with what I glanced at when updating the source templates. Next is the quality of the sources. I continue to feel iffy about Models.com as well as Porter (magazine) ... Porter is sold on newsstands like any other magazine, but this piece by The Wall Street Journal describes it as a "shoppable magazine" or in other words a shopping catalog that people pay for. The text article is mostly behind a paywall, but there's a free and very revealing video about how Porter is blurring the lines between catalog and magazine. Next, we really need a source for birthday. In my work today I looked at all the sources, but didn't notice any mention of birthday. Well, I am done for now. Hope to get some feedback. Cheers, --SVTCobra (talk) 01:23, 1 June 2019 (UTC)

Access dates

This diff removed several access dates from the citations. Was there a reason for this? Cheers, --SVTCobra (talk) 17:00, 2 June 2019 (UTC)

Those sources were added months ago. Trillfendi (talk) 17:12, 2 June 2019 (UTC)

So? I accessed them on that date. Per the citation usage notes Note that access-date is the date that the URL was found to be working and to support the text being cited. This is why I updated them, because they are still working. I didn't update the Times interview, for example, because it was behind a paywall and I couldn't verify it as supporting the text. --SVTCobra (talk) 17:29, 2 June 2019 (UTC)

Access dates are only required if the publication date is unknown.... Trillfendi (talk) 17:37, 2 June 2019 (UTC)

There are three categories for parameters: 1. Required. 2. Suggested. 3. Optional. Access dates are suggested, so there's no reason to remove them. Also, you removed them from three citations which do not have a publication date, which makes the access date more important/useful. --SVTCobra (talk) 17:50, 2 June 2019 (UTC)

In the end, who really cares? Certainly not the readers. Trillfendi (talk) 18:54, 2 June 2019 (UTC)

Source

Hi VSHAUTE. We really could use a reliable source for the section you just updated. It would help the article a lot. Thanks. --SVTCobra (talk) 06:32, 3 June 2019 (UTC)

Thanks SVTCobra. Going back to the AfD entry, the Models.com links are a bit redundant, but the article isn't 100% dependent on Fashion Model Directory and Models.com like some other model articles on Wiki... so I think it suffices, in this case (Digital links to each individual cover posted by the magazine publication wouldn't be much help, as far as I know - may simply be passed off as nothing of interest because the general consensus on here is social media does not equate to a resource on an encyclopedia). VSHAUTE (talk) 07:51, 3 June 2019 (UTC)

Yes, it's easy to see all the covers, many with her name on them, but you are right, it won't count as a reliable source to see scans of the covers. Is there any chance they are on Issuu or a similar linkable site? --SVTCobra (talk) 08:00, 3 June 2019 (UTC)