Talk:Birchandra Manu massacre
Latest comment: 12 years ago by Tagishsimon in topic Coordinates
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Coordinates edit
We have coordinates on this article, with a comment from the person who added them, saying "shows the location of Birchandra Manu village, not necessarily the exact spot of the massacre". I've twice removed them, but that editor has each time reverted me.
We should not use such coordinates, and they should be removed until something more accurate is provided. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 21:19, 12 April 2012 (UTC)
- As much as it pains me, I have to agree with Andy ;-). This is similar to writing an inaccurate/no-information stub. Worse than having a redlink. --Dschwen 21:29, 12 April 2012 (UTC)
- My rationale is the following: The village is really small. The coordinates might be wrong by a few hundred meters, so the coords template is still valid and helpful to position the event geographically. It's by no means less correct than most other coord templates at wikipedia. --Soman (talk) 21:30, 12 April 2012 (UTC)
- Mh, I see your point. But when comparing to the accuracy of other coordinates you have to take the extent of the coded object/event into account. Being wrong by a few hundred meters is no problem when geocoding a country, but for this event it might be. --Dschwen 21:35, 12 April 2012 (UTC)
- The way forwards - since it is less correct than very many of the 750,000 coords on wikipedia, is to include the coord inline, or as a footnote, and specify that this is the village not the precise point at which the killings took place. It shouldn't be left in the title since it does make a false claim to accuracy. I'm also a bit dubious about the coords pointing to the village - there are buildings a hundred and more metres northeast, but the location chosen seems to be a plantation. --Tagishsimon (talk) 22:11, 12 April 2012 (UTC)
- The position in the article does not matter to coordinate extraction tools. Re-users will get this coordinate associated with this event no matter where you put it. For example, it will appear on teh WikiMiniAtlas. Just saying. --Dschwen 22:14, 12 April 2012 (UTC)
- They shouldn't do so, and I doubt that they do. The title position defines the coordinates for the article. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 22:53, 12 April 2012 (UTC)
- I'm ok with shifting the coords to a footnote, and clarifying that it is the location of the village. However, I removed that mentioned that it was not the location of the event, since we can neither confirm were in the village the event took place and where it didn't. --Soman (talk) 06:25, 13 April 2012 (UTC)
- Wording change is fine. Why are we pointing at a plantation rather than at the cluster of buildings. Is that deliberate? --Tagishsimon (talk) 08:07, 13 April 2012 (UTC)
- I'm ok with shifting the coords to a footnote, and clarifying that it is the location of the village. However, I removed that mentioned that it was not the location of the event, since we can neither confirm were in the village the event took place and where it didn't. --Soman (talk) 06:25, 13 April 2012 (UTC)
- They shouldn't do so, and I doubt that they do. The title position defines the coordinates for the article. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 22:53, 12 April 2012 (UTC)
- The position in the article does not matter to coordinate extraction tools. Re-users will get this coordinate associated with this event no matter where you put it. For example, it will appear on teh WikiMiniAtlas. Just saying. --Dschwen 22:14, 12 April 2012 (UTC)