Talk:Bir Mangaoli

Requested move 22 May 2020

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The result of the move request was: moved (non-admin closure) Mdaniels5757 (talk) 23:53, 15 June 2020 (UTC)

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Bir Mangoli Sainian → Bir Mangaoli – The title should have been Bir Mangaoli, as there is just one village with this name in the Kurukshetra district: see the official details from Indian government here (archived link: [1]) or search in the District Census Handbook of Kurukshetra. In fact, there is not any village named Bir Mangoli Sainian in India, let alone in Haryana state: one can search the official records at here. So it should be moved to Bir Mangaoli without leaving a redirect.

Note that the inexperienced article creator is an SPA who has added unsourced/OR claims about Saini caste in various articles, and the addition of unsourced Sainian bit in this article's title seems like an attempt to promote Sainis. One can check the original version of the article here: it is full of Saini-related unsourced claims.

PS: The page can be titled either Bir Mangaoli or Bir Mangoli, but the former is not only the official name but also the common name, as it appears in four other reliable sources, while the latter one appears in just two such sources. NitinMlk (talk) 18:33, 22 May 2020 (UTC)

• Move to Bir Mangaoli w/o leaving a redirect, per nomination. Searching for non-wikipedia sources for "Bir Mangoli Sainian" draws a complete blank barring a couple of web-caches probably linked to the article creator. The "Sainian" variant of the village name looks to be an on-wiki creation aimed at promoting the Saini caste. Abecedare (talk) 21:11, 22 May 2020 (UTC)

• I have lived there,born there and my last 15 generation lived there.So I better known that's. Majority of caste in these village are 86% Saini Caste. In which 72% are dahiya clan of Sainis community's that have play a Great role to development the village history like Army persons,Numberdar of village all time,Sarpanchs,or politically,Bigest landlords,ect. Neeraj Puru (talk) 05:09, 31 May 2020 (UTC)

These information of village Bir Mangoali are a other vilage near 1km to these village of Bir Mangoli Sainian today poplury knowns. Neeraj Puru (talk) 05:12, 31 May 2020 (UTC)

https://www.wikiwand.com/en/Ladwa

Dear, you can check on these references that neither be me or you. Neeraj Puru (talk) 05:17, 31 May 2020 (UTC)

• There is no such village in the whole Kurukshetra district: see District Census Handbook of Kurukshetra. In fact, there is no such village in India. And Wikiwand is just showing a mirror of this article. - NitinMlk (talk) 18:58, 31 May 2020 (UTC)

• Move to Bir Mangaoli without leaving a redirect. There is zero support for this, it's clearly WP:ADVOCACY. Mathglot (talk) 20:15, 31 May 2020 (UTC)

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