Talk:Bionicle Heroes

Other Versions

I think that this article should do more than briefly mention the GBA and DS versions, because the DS and GBA versions are extremely dfferent and either merit their own section, article, or at least some way of mentioning them ToaRabin 16:46, 3 January 2007 (UTC)

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Toa Mario (talk · contribs) keeps replacing the Nintendo image with the wii image (which is about to be deleted, anyway) ... the problem is that there is a very big difference in size, and when enlarged, the wii image is severely degraded on larger resolution monitors ... I have removed the size tag so that it is not quite as ugly ... BTW, that user seems to have violated WP:3RR on this article. --68.239.79.97 20:49, 8 April 2007 (UTC)

About DS Version, and other stuff

The DS Version of Bionicle Heroes is quite different:

• Only the Toa Inika (plus the anonymous hero) are playable (Piraka are not playable).
• Vezon and Fenrakk do not appear at all.
• Only Piraka appear as bosses.
• The DS Version has not 25 levels, but 37: (five for each Piraka's region, and 7 in "Makuta's Domain" (one for each element, plus the final level "Final Showdown", where all the Piraka appear).
• The DS Version also has only 6 bosses (each Piraka in their own region, plus all 6 in the level "Final Showdown").
• Dying does NOT lose you a mask. However, some of the Technics collected in that level are lost forever, others are dropped at the site of death.
• There is no in-game Lego Shop. Technic pieces are used only in conjunction with runes (each with one of 16 letters on them, which are used to spell out relevant words such as "Hakann", "Irnakk" or "Voya Nui") in order to unlock one of 12 bonuses, which can affect gameplay by granting a power such as invincibility, by increasing the difficulty, or altering the size of enemies; some however do things such as make enemies multicoloured, launch farm animals from the anonymous hero's Zamor Sphere launcher, or change the sound of the game. These bonuses can be switched on or off once unlocked. However some, such as "Big Head" and "Tiny Enemies" cannot be active simultaneously.
• There are no silver or gold canisters. There are canisters in colours depending on which region the level is in, which must be broken by firing at it. These canisters yield Technic pieces.
• All constractions are made by the anonymous hero. There are 5 types: door, bridge, lift, statue and Piraka head (the rarest). When confronted with one such constraction, the symbol for the protagonist will appear, indicating to switch to him. The statue is of Toa Jaller, and is the only one to yield Technic pieces, other than the Piraka head. The Piraka head is unique in that after the protagonist builds it, he destroys it. Statues are not necessary to complete, whereas the other types normally are. Piraka heads normally block the way to the level exit, so it is required to build (and destroy) them.
• Rahkshi do appear, but as normal enemies alongside the Bohrok, Vahki and Visorak. Scorpion-like Rahi also appear, but they are not common.
• Secrets can be found: generally they are either gold Technics (worth 100 normal Technics), runes (some enemies drop runes, but these dropped runes are generally letter "A" or "K", the most common letters; the secret runes are rarer letters) or armor runes (which add to your maximum health). After collecting all three of Toa Hahli's masks, Toa Hahli can seek out nearby secrets on the radar.
• Toa Nuparu can destroy certain types of wall. Toa Hewkii can destroy other types of wall. When confronted with one of these types of wall, the corresponding symbol for that Toa will appear.
• Each Toa only has one weapon (except for Toa Jaller who has two).

By the way: I don't know if any of the above points are true for the console versions...

See, big difference. And that's just the DS version. Having more info about the different versions would help a great deal - because it is a great difference. Me myself or I 17:46, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

I've also noticed, the anonymous hero is wearing a white Hau mask while a Matoran; after the transformation, the protagonist is wearing a Calix mask of Fate (or a very similar mask).

Edited by Me myself or I 19:59, 2 September 2007 (UTC)

Reception

If your going to have a reception section you need to have found both negative and positive criticism of the game, that way your article won't be accused of being unbiased. -James Pandora Adams —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.176.143.14 (talk) 15:17, 10 April 2011 (UTC)

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GA Review

This review is transcluded from Talk:Bionicle Heroes/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: Lazman321 (talk · contribs) 12:46, 26 May 2021 (UTC)

You have asked me to review one of your good article nominations in return for a review of my good article nomination of Octogeddon. I will accept your request.

1 - Well written

1a - Clear and concise prose

• "...automatically locks in to enemies." to "...automatically locks on to enemies."

  Fixed.

• "...by collecting different masks scattered throughout each area, the player gains permanent access to new weapons, each with different traits. Each world features three versions of mask, with the second and third providing an upgrade to the weapon."
  

So which is it? Are there different masks scattered throughout each area or world, or is there only three in each area or world? Do they all give access to new weapons or does only one type give access, while the others upgrade it. The source seems to be saying that each area has three masks and they all give new weapons.

• It might be worded confusingly - basically, each of the six worlds has three masks you find. The first in each world grants permanent access to a new weapon, with each weapon having a different trait. The second and third masks simply upgrade the weapon. Open to advice on how to improve the wording. Toa Nidhiki05 17:39, 26 May 2021 (UTC)

• How about "From the beginning, the player has access to the Zamor Launcher, a weak weapon with unlimited ammunition. Each world features three masks. The first one gives the player a new weapon, and the second and third masks provides an upgrade to the weapon." Lazman321 (talk) 13:59, 27 May 2021 (UTC)

• Works well! I've replaced it with your wording. Toa Nidhiki05 14:08, 27 May 2021 (UTC)

• "...features three versions of mask, with the second..." to "...features three versions of the mask, with the second..."

  Done. Toa Nidhiki05 17:39, 26 May 2021 (UTC)

• "...gunfire can be selected from; pressing the A button..." to "...gunfire can be selected from. Pressing the A button..."|

  Done. Toa Nidhiki05 17:39, 26 May 2021 (UTC)

• "Balta gives the villager a mask..." to "Balta gives the Matoran a mask..."

  Done. Toa Nidhiki05 17:39, 26 May 2021 (UTC)

• "...control the Mask of Life; after defeating him," to "...control the Mask of Life. After defeating him,"

  Done. Toa Nidhiki05 17:39, 26 May 2021 (UTC)

• "Development of Bionicle Heroes began in late 2005." to "The development of Bionicle Heroes began in late 2005."

  Done. Toa Nidhiki05 17:39, 26 May 2021 (UTC)

• "...game development and in enemy variety." to "...game development and enemy variety."

  Done. Toa Nidhiki05 17:39, 26 May 2021 (UTC)

• "...but feltBionicle Heroes was too easy..." to "...but felt Bionicle Heroes was too easy..."

  Done. Toa Nidhiki05 17:39, 26 May 2021 (UTC)

• "...praise for both its single-player and multi-player modes." to "...praise for both its single-player and multiplayer modes."

  Done. Toa Nidhiki05 17:39, 26 May 2021 (UTC)

1b - Adherence to the Manual of Style

All of the required guidelines from the Manual of Style seem to have been followed. The lead summarizes the key aspects of the article. The layout is standard for a video game. There are no words to watch out for. It is clear that the plot section is fictional and only applies to this game. There are no lists. This article does ✓ Pass this criterion.

2 - Verifiable with no original research

2a - List of references

The easiest criterion to meet. This article does ✓ Pass this criterion.

2b - Inline citations to reliable sources

All sources are either primary or reliable. All of the primary sources are used properly and are only used in the story and development sections. The only non-primary source that caught my attention was Planet Gameboy, mostly because I had never heard about it before and it does not have an article. Though it isn't listed in the reliable sources for video games list, it is most likely reliable due to it being owned by 4Players, which is considered reliable. This article does ✓ Pass this criterion.

2c - No original research

• Citation 4 does not say that the Wii version's camera is controlled through the IR sensor.

  It seems like IGN is glitching out when it comes to multi-page reviews. I've updated the link to use an archived version of the IGN review, which does mention the IR sensor. Toa Nidhiki05 13:54, 27 May 2021 (UTC)

• Citation 1 does not say anything about hero mode. Citation 2 does, however.

  Same issue as above - not sure why IGN is messing up, but it's fixed now. Toa Nidhiki05 13:54, 27 May 2021 (UTC)

2d - No copyright violations or plagiarism

With a copyvio score of 20.0%, this article does ✓ Pass this criterion.

3 - Broad in its coverage

3a - Addressing of main aspects

This article does address the main aspects of Bionicle Heroes, including all the platforms that Bionicle Heroes is on, their differences, the development of Bionicle Heroes, and its reception. This article does ✓ Pass this criterion.

3b - Focused on topic

Never once does it stray off the intended topic. It always talks about Bionicle Heroes. This article does ✓ Pass this criterion.

4 - Neutral

All published opinions are clearly marked as such. They are either widespread opinions or attributed opinions. This article does ✓ Pass this criterion.

5 - Stable

There has been no content dispute or edit war recently. This article does ✓ Pass this criterion.

6 - Illustarted

6a - Media tagged with copyright status and rationales

All the images are tagged with valid fair-use rationales. This article does ✓ Pass this criterion.

6b - Media relevant to topic

All media is relevant to Bionicle Heroes. This article does ✓ Pass this criterion.

7 - Verdict

I am placing this review  On hold until problems are dealt with. Good luck. Lazman321 (talk) 14:01, 27 May 2021 (UTC)

All issues should be dealt with now, Lazman321 Toa Nidhiki05 14:24, 27 May 2021 (UTC)

This review has  Passed and the article from now on will be considered a good article. Great job on your work on this article on Bionicle Heroes. Lazman321 (talk) 17:15, 27 May 2021 (UTC)