Talk:Bill Nye/GA1

GA Review

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Reviewer: Mike Christie (talk · contribs) 11:10, 7 March 2018 (UTC)

I'll review this. Mike Christie (talk - contribs - library) 11:10, 7 March 2018 (UTC)

The article has large chunks of text taken from this source; this is a copyright problem. The text should be removed and replaced with material from other sources. That source dates to October 2015, and does not appear to be a mirror of Wikipedia.

I don't think it is possible to fix this in the time frame of a GA review but will wait for a response before I fail this. Mike Christie (talk - contribs - library) 11:33, 7 March 2018 (UTC)

Hi Mike Christie, can you specify which parts of the article look suspicious?--The lorax (talk) 18:25, 10 March 2018 (UTC)

The Earwig analysis highlights the similarities. Mike Christie (talk - contribs - library) 18:34, 10 March 2018 (UTC)

Okay, I made an effort to remove much of these similarities. Does that look better?--The lorax (talk) 19:30, 11 March 2018 (UTC)

The lorax: I haven't looked, but I just realized that I should also have said I don't think it's a reliable source. Sorry; I hope you haven't wasted your time with those edits. I remembered after I saw your note here that it's a wiki, and usually those aren't reliable. If you can show it's reliable, then I'll take a look at the edits. If not, I'm afraid it'll have to be resourced. My apologies for not saying this up front -- it slipped my mind. Mike Christie (talk - contribs - library) 21:14, 11 March 2018 (UTC)

Seems like every reference is a reliable source, unless I’m missing something?The lorax (talk) 01:14, 12 March 2018 (UTC)

I meant the dancingwiththe stars overlap, but I was misremembering; it looks like it wasn't used as a source. Sorry about that -- I promise to be more careful for the rest of this review. Yes, the overlap with that page is now fixed; Earwig still complains but the overlap is now quotes or phrases that are hard to change, so it's OK. Mike Christie (talk - contribs - library) 11:19, 12 March 2018 (UTC)

I'll copyedit as I go; please revert as needed.

• What makes the following reliable sources?
  • reviewgeek.com
  • mentalfloss.com
  • splitsider.com
  • tvtropes.org (see this)

✅ Cut out all of those, but kept the Splitsider reference, which I'd argue is a reliable news source with an editorial staff per this Nieman Journalism Lab article.--The lorax (talk) 00:41, 15 March 2018 (UTC)

• Not an issue for GA, but you may wish to fix the following dead links [1], [2], [3], [4], and [5].

✅Swapped or removed links.

• Nye entertained audiences with kooky demonstrations like what happens when you eat a marshmallow that's been dunked in liquid nitrogen: I'd cut "kooky"; a bit too colloquial to be encyclopedic voice.

✅Swapped with "comical."--The lorax (talk) 00:41, 15 March 2018 (UTC)

• There are some unsourced sentences in the "Other media appearances" section, and another in the "Science advocacy" section.
• Do we really need to know he supported the reclassification of Pluto as a dwarf planet?
• Nye stated "compared to all of the other herbicides, Glyphosate is pretty benign... there's no difference between allergies among GMO eaters and non-GMO eaters... organic farming takes a lot more water... I've changed my mind about genetically modified organisms": the quote is odd; why are we including references to glyphosate and organic farming? The context is just Nye's support for GMOs.

✅Fixed.--The lorax (talk) 00:41, 15 March 2018 (UTC)

• The science advocacy section has a bit of a proseline problem, with short paragraphs. This is good enough for GA, but if the material can be integrated a little more it would make it more readable. This is also a bit of an issue in the "Other media appearances" and "Personal life" sections.

-- Mike Christie (talk - contribs - library) 11:19, 12 March 2018 (UTC)

• TV Tropes is an usergenerated website so probably not suited as a source for a GA. Disclaimer: I am a member of the staff there. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 17:41, 12 March 2018 (UTC)

@The lorax: the above are all fixed except for the proseline and the uncited sentences. The prose is good enough for GA, which only requires clear and concise -- I just mentioned it as a possible place to improve the article. Once the uncited sentences are cited I will promote this to GA. Mike Christie (talk - contribs - library) 10:42, 16 March 2018 (UTC)

@Mike Christie: I think all of the sentences in that section are cited now, unless I missed one?--The lorax (talk) 02:41, 17 March 2018 (UTC)

Yes, everything looks good now. Promoting. Mike Christie (talk - contribs - library) 14:47, 17 March 2018 (UTC)

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