Talk:Bilge Khagan
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Comments edit
"Bilge is even better known, however, for advising his successors that the power of the T'u-chüeh came from their nomadic life and that to settle in agricultural communities on the Chinese border would weaken them" (Britannica 2006). Pelase refactor if you feel like it. --Ghirla-трёп- 21:10, 17 May 2007 (UTC)
Tonyukuk edit
I feel that Tonyukuk should also be mentioned in this article. (Not only his stelae but rather his position as chancellor.)Nedim Ardoğa (talk) 13:25, 17 October 2009 (UTC)
Name of the article edit
His name is accepted widespread as Bilge Khagan. Khagan is the most accepted form. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khagan Please correct the name of the article. Sbasturk (talk) 06:15, 30 December 2012 (UTC)
- Bilge Qaghan is the common name in English language. You can easily control it with google books. Takabeg (talk) 10:37, 30 December 2012 (UTC)
- No it is not. FYI Khagan is not a name but a title of imperial rank. Maybe you should check the WP page: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khagan . After your Google research if you still think Qaghan is more accepted form please feel free to change it again or start a discuss in the article 'Khagan'. (Google search results for Bilge Qaghan: 27600 Results. For Bilge Khagan 1100000 results.)Sbasturk (talk) 10:46, 30 December 2012 (UTC)
- Articles in wikipedia themselves, and normal google search are not Identifying reliable sources. If you want and you can prove that the common use should be "Bilge Khagan", you can request move. Takabeg (talk) 10:56, 30 December 2012 (UTC)
- Of course Google searches are not a reliable source. But I just want to make you notice that Bilge Khagan is a more accepted format. Although they are not reliable 1100000 vs 26000 search results mean something to me. Anyway I listed some more reliable sources here. Please take a look. Btw I know there are also books containing his name as Qaghan but as I mentioned before, Khagan is widespread for example WP also has this title in this format.--Sbasturk (talk) 11:32, 30 December 2012 (UTC)
Requested move edit
- The following discussion is an archived discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the move request was: No consensus. Cúchullain t/c 16:54, 11 February 2013 (UTC)
Bilge Qaghan → Bilge Khagan – Some of the sources can be found above. Another major source is Encyclopædia Britannica [1] where it is written as
Besides as I mentioned before in the talk page, Khagan is not a name but a title of imperial rank. Please take a look to the discuss Name of the Article above. --Relisted HaugenErik (talk) 17:43, 14 January 2013 (UTC) Sbasturk (talk) 06:23, 31 December 2012 (UTC)...khagan, or great khan...
Oppose – According to google books research, "Bilge Khagan" -Llc (min. 21 hits) is not common name in English language. Bilge Qaghan (min. 38 hits) is more common. Takabeg (talk) 05:27, 4 January 2013 (UTC)
Comment: There seems no consensus for the move yet it has occurred, done by a relative newcomer. Investigating at User talk:Qara xan#Move of Bilge Qaghan. Andrewa (talk) 22:40, 8 January 2013 (UTC)
Comment: I'm relisting this discussion to hopefully get more input. It seems that on Wikipedia we generally write the word Khagan, so it would be interesting to see if there is any reason why this article should be any different. I've undone the move; please do not move this again until this discussion is closed. ErikHaugen (talk | contribs) 17:43, 14 January 2013 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page or in a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.
References
- ^ "Bilge." Encyclopædia Britannica. Encyclopædia Britannica Deluxe Edition. Chicago: Encyclopædia Britannica, 2012.
reign section edit
"They killed him and made him Bilge khagan.[4] His name literally.."
Come again? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.210.131.2 (talk) 17:20, 21 September 2018 (UTC)
Move discussion in progress edit
There is a move discussion in progress on Talk:Bilgä Qaǧan which affects this page. Please participate on that page and not in this talk page section. Thank you. —RMCD bot 23:06, 28 March 2021 (UTC)