Talk:Big Brother 26 (American season)

Article sections

Two things I'd like to discuss:

1. I know that the changes and additions section (formerly sectionalized as "Twists") is commonly added to BB articles, but I question just how necessary it is? It's entirely unsourced and overall it just feels very WP:FANCRUFTY. It's also worth mentioning that all this information is nearly duplicated word-for-word in the episode section and can/will be addressed in the voting history table. If it's kept it should be sourced, but I'm ultimately proposing we just rid of it and merge the relevant content into other sections. In the episode table it doesn't need sourced as it's sourced to the work itself.
2. I'd like to point out than an IP editor removed the reception section because "Reception not needed till after the season". I'd like to point out that this is not necessarily true, any properly sourced reception can and should be added while the season is airing; however, I do question if what was added is necessary as it was poorly sourced.

Thanks, TheDoctorWho (talk) 03:52, 22 July 2024 (UTC)

You know how I feel about all that. Additionally, the table of contestants should be as near to the top of the article as possible. Bgsu98 (Talk) 10:59, 22 July 2024 (UTC)

I'll give it a few more days to see if anyone chimes in, if not I'll go ahead and remove the changes section. As a result, the HouseGuest season will move closer to the top (I think the format section is the only thing that makes sense above above it). I'd rather nip these issues in the bud early than try to deal with it later on. TheDoctorWho (talk) 20:54, 22 July 2024 (UTC)

 Done TheDoctorWho (talk) 03:56, 25 July 2024 (UTC)

In regards to the reception section, just because content is properly sourced doesn't guarantee a spot in the article. We are only interested in major issues, as implied by the name "Critical responses" (subsection).9March2019 (talk) 01:13, 26 July 2024 (UTC)

Being that it impacted a full week, and adjusted how some players played and continue to play, it would appear it is a major issue in the game I would think. It harms nothing to keep it in since it has been discussed often both online and in the episodes. Editor82641 (talk) 04:56, 26 July 2024 (UTC)

Also, I get that TMZ is not considered a good source, but as it is run by a lawyer, it won’t post anything that is slander/libel and thus may be better than some sites that post opinions. Also, since reception is about how the season is seen by people, is there a way to site things from social media to note the reception seen from viewers? Editor82641 (talk) 05:30, 26 July 2024 (UTC)

Fact is, Big Brother is a social game; so it's completely normal for drama to erupt in the Big Brother house the same way it does for online social media, regardless of what it leads to. 9March2019 (talk) 23:32, 26 July 2024 (UTC)

AI Arena

Can we just have the nominee saved by the AI arena indicated with a strike through in the nominations (post-veto) row? We have no idea how long this twist will last, there’s no need to have two entire rows for it. E51539 (talk) 00:41, 26 July 2024 (UTC)

I agree on grounds of WP:CRYSTALBALL as having additional rows imply the twist would last the entire season when there's no confirmation on that. 9March2019 (talk) 01:15, 26 July 2024 (UTC)

9March2019, this is no different than whatever season it was that had the camp theme; I believe it was called the Roadkill Competition. Bgsu98 (Talk) 01:35, 26 July 2024 (UTC) Never mind, I had that twist confused with something else. Bgsu98 (Talk) 01:57, 26 July 2024 (UTC)

Protected page?

Is there a way someone can protect this wikipedia page? I have seen people adding in winners and runner ups and changing voting history that never happened by users in red. Editor82641 (talk) 06:09, 26 July 2024 (UTC)

Any editor can file a request for page protection. TheDoctorWho (talk) 06:19, 26 July 2024 (UTC)

Thank you! Editor82641 (talk) 12:43, 26 July 2024 (UTC)

Evicted Template

@Bgsu98: I created this template so that it matched the table color, but I'm starting wondering if this was the wrong fix for it. Perhaps instead of having a specific template, we should update the color in the voting table to match {{eliminated}}? The color contrast is better and this is the already more-widely used template. Celebrity Big Brother 1 (American season) for example, uses it in the HouseGuest table, as does Big Brother (British TV series) series 14 and Big Brother (Australian TV series) season 12. TheDoctorWho (talk) 17:31, 26 July 2024 (UTC)

I really feel strongly that the colors should match from one table to the next. It makes no sense, for example, to use pink for Eviction in the Contestants table, when we use that same pink to represent quitters on the Voting History table. I believe the colors on the contestants' tables from past seasons have already been refitted to match the colors used on the voting history table; I seem to recall doing that a few years ago.

I also just left a message on your talk page before I saw you posted here. I really don't like the (-) separating the Day. I think putting the day underneath makes the table look neater and narrows the overall width of the table. Bgsu98 (Talk) 17:38, 26 July 2024 (UTC)

And I just realized I never got around to revamping the tables on the Celebrity Big Brother pages when I did all of the regular season pages a few years ago. Bgsu98 (Talk) 17:39, 26 July 2024 (UTC)

I entirely agree that they shoukd match, i wouldn't suggest anything otherwise. I was just suggesting that we consider matching to Template:Eliminated since it's more widely used, rather than creating one to specifically suit our needs. TheDoctorWho (talk) 17:52, 26 July 2024 (UTC)

I think people are more invested in those colors used on the voting table. I think the color scheme used now is good. Bgsu98 (Talk) 17:56, 26 July 2024 (UTC)

HouseGuests table - Past seasons

@Bgsu98 should past HouseGuest tables be edited to match the format of the BB24-26 table, with the "Evicted" column and the "Day exited" column being combined to the "Result" column? If so I'll try to fix them at some point. Thanks! TheRealJackMarshall (talk) 18:55, 26 July 2024 (UTC)

Yes. Bgsu98 (Talk) 18:58, 26 July 2024 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 27 July 2024

This line “The winner of the HoH competition is immune from eviction and selects two HouseGuests to be nominated for eviction.” Should say three houseguests. Not two.

This line “the nominees, and three other HouseGuests chosen by random draw.” should say two other. Not three. 2600:1702:19C0:13A0:D112:591E:C24D:C4D2 (talk) 23:27, 27 July 2024 (UTC)

 Not done: The standard is to still nominate two HouseGuests. Nominating three is a twist for just a portion of this season, which is mentioned in the episode table, and does not reflect the normal format of the program. TheDoctorWho (talk) 02:57, 28 July 2024 (UTC)

Combining notes A&C

Hello, I'm not sure how to edi the notelist under the voting history chart, but here's a suggestion I wanted to make that combines both A&C together: Makensy activated America’s Veto, a power she acquired for placing first in the “Upgrade” competition, to remove herself from the block. America will choose a replacement nominee, who will be revealed during the live eviction. Neither Makensy or Angela, who was vetoed from the block by Tucker, are eligible to be nominated by America.

• If you’re not sure how to edit the notes, then post here what you want each note to say and I will be happy to update them for you. 😃 Bgsu98 (Talk) 21:40, 6 August 2024 (UTC)

Thank you Bgsu98. Here is how I would personally word it: Makensy activated America’s Veto, a power she acquired for placing first in the “Upgrade” competition, to remove herself from the block. America will choose a replacement nominee, who will be revealed during the live eviction. Neither Makensy or Angela, who was vetoed from the block by Tucker, were eligible to be nominated by America.

Done, with a slight re-wording. Bgsu98 (Talk) 00:57, 7 August 2024 (UTC)