Talk:Bertram Bowyer, 2nd Baron Denham

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Baronetcy of Denham Court edit

Latest comment: 5 years ago4 comments3 people in discussion

There seems to be a discrepancy with the preceding incumbent with the inheritance of title. If the baronetcy of Denham Court was inherited later than the baroncy from his father, then it would seem realistic that the baronetcy came from another relation, whereas at the moment we have them as the same person. billinghurst sDrewth 11:23, 23 November 2010 (UTC)Reply

You seem to be onto something. Baron Denham says that "In 1950 he also succeeded a distant relative in the Bowyer Baronetcy of Denham Court." That page, about the Denham Barony is a bit confusing as it also covers the Denham Court Baronetcy. I think some deeper digging is in order.--Jimbo Wales (talk) 12:30, 23 November 2010 (UTC)Reply

Ok, if I have it straight. The current Baron Denham, the subject of this page, i.e. Bertram Bowyer, 2nd Baron Denham, inherited the Barony from his father, George Edward Wentworth Bowyer, 1st Baron Denham, in 1948. Then in 1950 he apparently inherited the Baronetcy from Sir George Henry Bowyer, 9th Baronet, 5th Baronet, relationship unclear although we say "a distant relative". For Sir George, we do not have an article. I am updating the entry to make clearer in the table that this is a different George. :)--Jimbo Wales (talk) 12:35, 23 November 2010 (UTC)Reply

@Jimbo Wales: The article on Baron Denham has been updated to reflect that there are three Bowyer baronetcies, 1) of Denham Court, 2) of Radley, and 3) of Weston Underwood. The fourth baronet of the first creation (Denham Court) had a younger brother who was created a baronet (Radley) in his own right. The fourth baronet died childless, so his brother inherited the Denham Court baronetcy, and was thus a baronet twice over.

His line – the Radley line – ended with the 9th (Denham Court) and 5th (Radley) baronet, who also died childless. The Denham Court baronetcy though passed to a younger line, and was inherited by the 2nd Baron Denham, whose father had first been created a baronet (Weston Underwood), and then Baron Denham. The 2nd Baron Denham is thus also the 10th Baronet of Denham Court and 2nd Baronet of Weston Underwood.

The male-line family tree should clear things up.

HandsomeFella (talk) 16:38, 19 August 2018 (UTC)Reply

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