Talk:Berg adder

YouTube links

This article is one of thousands on Wikipedia that have a link to YouTube in it. Based on the External links policy, most of these should probably be removed. I'm putting this message here, on this talk page, to request the regular editors take a look at the link and make sure it doesn't violate policy. In short: 1. 99% of the time YouTube should not be used as a source. 2. We must not link to material that violates someones copyright. If you are not sure if the link on this article should be removed or you would like to help spread this message contact us on this page. Thanks, ---J.S (t|c) 05:09, 10 November 2006 (UTC)

Editing and citation wanted

I have just added a pic of a Cedarberg specimen and done some editing and minor rearrangement of the text. The remark about harvesting needed editing, but I retained the claim that venom harvesting killed the snake. However, that is a strange claim, so I asked for a citation. Feel welcome to contact me here if you would like to discuss that. I have a watch on this page. JonRichfield (talk) 20:38, 4 June 2011 (UTC)

Disputed venom claim

I see that the neurotoxicity claim is being disputed, but I cannot see who did so, or why. Will the source of the claim please log into this discussion page under his own ID instead of the University of Stellenbosch common (and abused) ID, so that we can assess the merits of the assertion? Certainly I cannot see where any data are offered to support the claim (not implausible as it stands, but that is no basis for acceptance in the absence of evidence; after all, the claim of neurotoxicity is referenced). I am not in a position to settle he matter personally and it is not easy to find definitive material on the venom of such a small, rare snake. Trying to prove a negative (such as that all B. atropos produce negligible cytotoxic venom) is impossible, but conversely, to assert the contrary without support in the face of contradictory references is not acceptable. I am making enquiries and if anything materialises I shall edit the article accordingly unless someone beats me to it. JonRichfield (talk) 14:36, 6 October 2011 (UTC)

Illustration gone walkabout

I see that the original Bitis atropos image seems to have been removed. This is unfortunate because the colour variation between the regional populations can be quite dramatic. If anyone would like to contribute decent photographs of various regional colourations to Wikimedia, that would be a real service. JonRichfield (talk) 06:37, 13 February 2012 (UTC)

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