Talk:Benedict the Moor

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The prounciation of San Fratello in the dilect of the town is "San Frareau" and pronounced "San Frareddu" in the Sicilian language.

It is incorrect that the town was ever known as San Philadelphio. The town has three patron Saints - Benedetto, Filadelfio and Cirino. "Fratello" means brother and I understand that the word refers to these three patron saints.

Finally the story of San Benedetto recounted here is not what I was told by my parents and grandparents. The Manasseri's were NOT an African family...they were Sicilians from the town who were quite simple people. Benedetto, as a small boy, was covered with lice. His mother was told she should boil oil and put the boy into it to kill the lice. Not realizing that she was being tricked, she did that because she did not know better. Benedetto, in his first miracle, survived the treatment but his skin turned brown. When the Vatican heard of this mircle, they sent word to Benedetto that he must stop performing miracles. Once, the father of many children had fallen from a wall or a cliff and was about to smash to the ground and be killed instantly. Benedetto, witnessing the fall, stopped the man in mid air from falling and contacted the Vatican to obtain permission to perform a miracle and save the life of the man. The Vatican responded and said he already performed a miracle.

It is said that Africans, who learned that a patron Saint in Sicily was brown in color, decided that he had to be of African origin and claimed him as African so that they would have a Saint. That is why often when referring to St. Benedetto those from the town say "St. Benedetto detto il Moro" That means St. Benedetto "called" or "referred to" a "Moro." That is intended to identify St. Benedetto, not to concede any origin in Africa of either him or his parents.

I've never heard such an UTTER BULLCRAP explanation. Talking a black man white is it? This is an interesting phenomena. Your statement is biased did it ever occur to you that you've been lied to? Do you really believe that boiled oil will do this to a person? Well, than we have billion's of people who got boiled oil all over there body and that turned them into brown people with thick lips freezy hare and a broad nose. Read it again and think real hard about what you've just stated here. For centuries African slaves and their descendents have been lied to they got robbed of their identity their heritage, hell, their freedom all their human rights. Historians, Eurocentrist, wrote them out of history by covering up every little trace and deminished their contribution to civilizing Europe. Now in the Age of uncovering the truth you'll come up with a bullshit cockamany story like that? I mean, LOOK AGAIN AT THAT MAN THAT IS AN AFRICAN!!!! So next thing you are going to tell me is that Santa Clause really excist and the earth is flat right? You are narrow minded and blind with the truth RIGHT IN FRONT OF YOU!

i think that guy was joking! at least i hop so for him. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.45.215.133 (talk) 06:31, 15 August 2011 (UTC)Reply


Dudes, none of you are decent, seriously. Both statements are distorted! The first is obviously inaccurate (despite the fact that Africa has other saints and there are many saints of African ancestry - like the own Patron Saint of Brazil), but the second one was just as worse: "the age of uncovering the truth" - that's the fallacy of the "wronger than wrong". There is no age such as this one in the entire History and there will never be, since the only way to find the Truth is by Grace of God, or else: you will only uncover the truth when you admit that only by yourself you won't be able to find it, and NONE so called "historian" will give you all the answers since you just might believe in what you'd like to hear (another manner of seeking for pleasure with ignorance). SO, TO THE POINT... WHAT IS ACTUALLY MISSING IN THIS ARTICLE: I complain it's lacking a little information about St. Benedict (the Moor), as he is also Patron Saint of cookers - proof of that is that in Brazil he is ALSO very popular and generally regarded from preventing the food from getting spoiled by lack of attention and other kitchen disasters when he is evoked. As it is much tied to the department of housekeepers, being the most common devotees, he is also regarded for protecting housewives - many mothers buy his statuette so he may bring luck in their kitchen's tasks and help to keep them from blowing the meal. And, in Brazil there is no racial preference among St. Benedict's worshipers, nobody cares about a lost ancestry of a remote past and other prides and bullshits (though the commie politicians are very interested to cause artificial racial conflicts). He is not the saint of the black, he was just merely black and he helps anyone who calls for him. Anyway... here is an additional introduction to the manner this saint is admired across another place of South America. --177.140.188.13 (talk) 09:45, 27 March 2013 (UTC)Reply

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Does anyone know where the image used in the article came from? It looks like an early photograph rather than a contemporary painting (16th C). Dionix (talk) 18:52, 5 May 2008 (UTC)Reply

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St Benedict the moor churches edit

There’s one here in St Augustine Florida the first black Catholic Church here Mogie620 (talk) 02:29, 31 March 2021 (UTC)Reply