Talk:Belfry High School (Belfry, Kentucky)

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Improvements

This is more to let other editors know improvements are being made, so feel free to contribute and help a new editor "learn the ropes" of Wikipedia articles to improve this article. Thanks! --JonRidinger (talk) 03:32, 6 June 2017 (UTC)

Thanks for this. Unfortunately User:Belfrystat is edging ever the closer, however, to administrative interventtion being requested, on account of their addition of unsourced, often spammy cruft. My latest edit-summary decsribes the ongoing situation re. the clubs and organizations sections: 'When you can provide RELIABLE THIRD PARTY SOURCING that independently verifies that these clubs, etc., are are the subject of BROAD and PERSISTENT COVERAGE... then they will have encyclopaedic value.' Cheers, — O Fortuna ^{semper crescis, aut decrescis} 16:00, 6 June 2017 (UTC)

It's a process as editors learn the various Wikipedia styles and policies. Belfrystat has been more than responsive and cooperative thus far as I have interacted with them on their talk page and explained the various policies and guidelines, which isn't a regular thing for so many other editors. No need to use all-caps in your edit summaries, though, and I disagree we're anywhere near needing any kind of administrative intervention. Remember to assume good faith. --JonRidinger (talk) 16:13, 6 June 2017 (UTC)

@JonRidinger: as you should know, one assumes good fath of motives, not actions (incidentally, WP:DLTAGF is worth a browse). If you are emphasising policy, then perhaps a trifle more vigour is called for. The caps are irrelevant, btw; there is little other opportunity for emphasis in edit-summaries. This material has been continually reinserted, and the article puffed up, since the beginning of this year; it is clearly uncalled for. Anyway, you carry on then. — O Fortuna ^{semper crescis, aut decrescis} 16:23, 6 June 2017 (UTC)

Thank you @JonRidinger: , I am learning everything new here. I didn't know that clubs offered at a school needed a source for it, stupid but oh well, I will contacts a friend at the school and get the clubs/organizations on the school website, then post on here with a source. Belfrystat (talk) 16:39, 6 June 2017 (UTC)

Feel free to browse the talk page of Belfrystat. I have taken quite a bit of time and effort going back and forth to help the editor better understand the policies and guidelines so they can improve the article on their own, something that other editors have apparently not taken time to do. I prefer to help editors learn and improve, especially those who actually respond and express desire to understand better, rather than be the "vigorous" heavy hand that just points out errors and problems via edit summaries. We're not running against the clock, so there's no reason we *must* strike down deviations from the guidelines as quickly as possible or can't reach out on an editor's talk page. It's OK to stop and see if an editor is being problematic or simply is new and doesn't know the rules yet. That's what I mean when I say assume good faith. --JonRidinger (talk) 16:41, 6 June 2017 (UTC)

Clubs

As for the issue of the clubs and teams, one point that was made on the schools Wikiproject page was that they'd be better served in a table, at least as they are currently displayed, rather than a list. Ultimately, the best format is in prose. Don't feel like you need to list every club the school offers either. If a club has a Wikipedia article (usually the national organization), that can be linked, but for the most part, the clubs and organization section can be more general, such as "the school offers over 35 different clubs and organizations, including local chapters of...(and list some of the notable national organizations). In addition, there are other clubs for foreign language, painting, the arts, etc." highlighting any clubs that may be somewhat unique. Always avoid mentioning coaches or advisors unless the person is notable (i.e. has a Wikipedia article). The same goes for performing arts ensembles and sports teams, though performing arts should be under the curriculum unless it's done completely outside of regular school time. --JonRidinger (talk) 16:52, 6 June 2017 (UTC)

@JonRidinger someone has went in and totally deleted everything that we have worked on the past 2 days... Belfrystat (talk) 04:32, 7 June 2017 (UTC)

@JonRidinger: Belfrystat (talk) 04:32, 7 June 2017 (UTC)

I see. Was hoping more eyes on the page would result in improvements rather than just removal, but I guess that's what we'll have to work with for now. --JonRidinger (talk) 05:01, 7 June 2017 (UTC)