Talk:Beauty and the Beast (1991 film)/GA3

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Reviewer: XXSNUGGUMSXX (talk) 04:56, 11 April 2014 (UTC)Reply

(talk page stalker) Two comments by me: There is one dead link, and the plot is 749 words (WP:FILMPLOT states that the plot must be less than 700 words). Someone do please fix these. Kailash29792 (talk) 05:01, 11 April 2014 (UTC)Reply
That will be no problem as some sentences are lengthy. Now for the review where I'll give suggestions on cutting down word count....
Prose
Lead
  • Out of curiosity, is there any particular reason why the New York Film Festival premiere isn't included in the infobox?
  • In the second paragraph, "Following the unprecedented success of The Little Mermaid (1989), Walt Disney Feature Animation decided to adapt the fairy tale, originally conceived by then-director Richard Purdum as a non-musical." is a lengthy sentence. Try something like "Following the success of The Little Mermaid (1989), Disney decided to adapt the fairy tale, which Richard Purdum originally conceived as a non-musical.""
Plot
  • Condense the first paragraph from "An enchantress, disguised as an old beggar, offers a young prince a rose in exchange for a night's shelter in his castle but the prince declines. As a result of the prince's actions, the enchantress transforms him into a monstrous beast, his servants into household items, and his castle into a dark fortress. She gives him a magic mirror that enables him to view faraway events, along with the enchanted rose that she had offered, which will bloom until his 21st birthday. In order to break the curse, the prince must learn to love another and earn her love in return before the rose's petals have fallen off. If not, he will remain a beast permanently." to something like "An enchantress, disguised as an beggar, offers a prince a rose asking for shelter in his castle. The prince refuses out of selfishness. In response, the enchantress transforms him into a beast and his servants into household items. She gives him a magic mirror that enables him to view faraway events, along with the enchanted rose that she had offered. In order to break the curse, the prince must learn to love another and earn her love in return before the rose's last petal falls off. If he fails to do so, he will remain a beast permanently."
  • Condense the second paragraph from "Years later, a beautiful young woman named Belle lives in a nearby French village with her father Maurice, an inventor. A bookworm, Belle longs for a life beyond the dull village. Her beauty and non-conformity attracts attention in the town and she is pursued by the arrogant, egotistical and muscle-bound Gaston, who is set on marrying her. Despite Gaston being sought after by single females and admired by the male population of the town, Belle is uninterested in him." into something like "Years later, a French bookworm named Belle is bored of her village and seeks excitement. Due to her non-conformity, she is ousted by everyone but her father Maurice and an arrogant, muscular hunter named Gaston. Despite other females fawning over him and many males admiring him, he is determined to marry Belle. She repeatedly rejects his advances."
  • The redirect to Gaston should be corrected.
  • Condense the third paragraph from "While traveling to a fair to present his wood-chopping machine, accompanied by his horse Phillipe, Maurice gets lost in the woods. Chased by a pack of wolves, Maurice stumbles upon the Beast's castle, where he meets the transformed servants Lumière, a candelabra; Cogsworth, a clock; Mrs. Potts, a teapot; and her son Chip, a teacup. But soon after that, the ferocious Beast imprisons Maurice. Belle is led back to the castle by Phillipe, and offers to take her father's place; the Beast accepts her offer over Maurice's protests. While Gaston is sulking in the tavern after a failed proposal to Belle, Maurice arrives seeking help to rescue her from the Beast but is unable to persuade them." into something like "Maurice and his horse Phillipe get lost in the woods while traveling to a fair to present his wood-chopping machine. After being chased by a pack of wolves, he comes across the Beast's castle. Inside, he meets Lumière the candlestick, Cogsworth the clock, Mrs. Potts the teapot, and her son Chip the teacup. However, the Beast quickly finds and imprisons Maurice. After Phillipe leads Belle to the Beast's castle, she offers to take her father's place. The Beast accepts the offer despite Maurice's objections. While Gaston sulks over Belle's rejection, Maurice returns to town and unconvincingly asks for help to rescue Belle from the Beast."
  • The redirects to Lumière and Cogsworth should be corrected.
  • Condense the fourth paragraph from "That night, Belle refuses to dine with the Beast, enraging him; Lumière disobeys his order not to let her eat. While Cogsworth and Lumière give Belle a tour of the castle, she wanders into the forbidden West Wing. The Beast angrily chases her away, but she and Phillipe are attacked by a pack of wolves. The Beast comes to her aid and fights off the wolves, but is injured in the process. He starts becoming attracted to Belle as she nurses his wounds. She thanks him for saving her life and he impresses her by giving her the castle's vast library. As they spend more time together, they grow closer. Meanwhile, a spurned Gaston pays Monsieur d'Arque, the warden of the town's insane asylum, to have Maurice committed if Belle does not accept Gaston's marriage proposal." to something like "The Beast angrily refuses to let Belle have any dinner that night after she refuses to dine with him. Despite this, Lumière offers her a meal. While he and Cogsworth also give her a tour of the castle, she wanders into the forbidden West Wing. After chasing her away where she encounters a pack of wolves, the Beast is injured after fending them off. She thanks him for saving her life. He begins to develop feelings for her while she nurses his wounds and delights her by showing his extensive library. While the two begin to bond, Gaston pays Monsieur d'Arque to send Maurice to the town's insane asylum if Belle refuses Gaston's proposal again."
  • Condense the fifth paragraph from "Belle and the Beast share a romantic evening together. Belle informs the Beast she misses her father, and he lets her use the magic mirror to see him. When Belle sees him dying in the woods in an attempt to rescue her, the Beast lets her leave to rescue her father, giving her the mirror to remember him by. Belle finds her father and brings him home. Gaston arrives to put Maurice in the insane asylum, but Belle proves Maurice's sanity by showing them the Beast with the magic mirror. Realizing that Belle has feelings for the Beast, Gaston warns the townspeople that the Beast is a man-eating monster that must be killed, and leads them to the castle. Gaston confines Belle and Maurice to their basement, but Chip, who had hidden himself in Belle's baggage, is able to free them. The Beast's servants defeat the townspeople while Gaston sneaks away to confront the Beast. The villagers break into the castle, but are chased away by the enchanted furniture, and some get an extra dose of humiliation through being dressed in feminine clothes. The Beast is initially too depressed to fight back, but he regains his will when he sees Belle returning to the castle. After winning a heated battle on the castle's rooftops, the Beast spares Gaston's life and orders him to leave. When the Beast reunites with Belle, Gaston stabs him from behind, only to lose his balance and fall to his death. Before the Beast's death, Belle professes her love for him just as the rose's last petal falls, and the spell is broken. The Beast comes back to life and is restored to human form, as are his servants. Now reunited, Belle and the prince dance in the ballroom with Maurice and the servants happily watching." (which is quite massive) to something like "While sharing a romantic evening together, Belle tells the Beast she misses Maurice. He lets her use his magic mirror to see him. She sees Maurice dying in the woods trying to rescue her. The Beast lets her go out to rescue him and gives her the mirror to remember him by. She finds Maurice and brings him home. As Gaston is about to bring Maurice to the insane asylum, Belle proves Maurice's sanity by showing the Beast with the magic mirror. Realizing Belle loves the Beast, Gaston convinces the townspeople that the Beast is a man-eating monster and leads them to the castle to kill him. He confines Belle and Maurice to their basement. Having snuck into Belle's baggage, Chip manages to free them. Gaston confronts the beast while the servants fend off the villagers. The Beast initially is too depressed to fight back, though perks up after seeing Belle return to the castle. He battles and defeats Gaston in battle on the rooftops, though spares his life by ordering him to leave. Gaston stabs him in the behind as the Beast reunites with Belle. Gaston loses his balance in the process and falls to his death. Before the Beast dies, Belle announces she loves him just before the roses' last petal falls. With the spell broken, the Beast comes back to life. He and his servants are restored to human form. Belle dances with him in the ballroom."
  • After condensing this fifth paragraph, split it into two paragraphs, probably around the bit where Chip comes in.
Cast
  • You don't need to link the characters again after linking them in the plot section
  • For Lumière, correct the "Maître d'" redirect or simply use "host"
  • For Lumière, I would use "candlestick" since it's a more commonly known term than "candlebra"
  • For Lefou, I would cut "Gaston's bumbling and often abused, but loyal and rather clever sidekick" down to "Gaston's often abused yet loyal sidekick."
Production
Casting and recording
  • Per MOS:QUOTEMARKS, ′ should be ' and ″ should be ". There are instances where "Paige O′Hara" should read "Paige O'Hara" in ref#20 and ref#21 which I fixed.
Music
  • Combine the first and second paragraphs into one
  • Combine the third, fourth, fifth paragraphs into one
  • Combine the sixth, seventh, and eighth paragraphs into one
Sourcing
Cast
  • Every character except Belle, Beast, Gaston, Mrs. Potts, and Chip completely lacks citations. Please cite all content and characters in this section. However, there is WP:OVERCITE of ref#7, it doesn't need to be used twice before ref#8.
Production
Music
  • ref#5 is used excessively per WP:OVERCITE. You don't need to use it multiple times in a row.
  • there is also lots of WP:OVERCITE of ref#12
  • ref#25 is dead, remove this
Release and re-releases
  • More WP:OVERCITE in second paragraph- just use ref#31 at the end of the paragraph
Reception
Critical response
  • "Dave Kehr also of the Chicago Tribune"..... Chicago Tribune hadn't previously been used as a reference.
Merchandise and spin-offs
  • Combine the second and third paragraphs into one.
  • The Belle's Magical World redirect needs to be corrected.
Video games
  • Correct or remove the Gaston redirect
Reception
Critical response
  • Chicago Sun-Times seems to be questionable. Chicago Tribune by itself is sufficient.
Musical adaptation
  • The stubby second paragraph should be included in either the first paragraph or third paragraph.
Coverage
Production
Casting and recording
  • Could this be expanded beyond one paragraph? Add some info on other characters besides Belle.
Video games
  • The bits on the first and fifth video games could use expansion. Stubby paragraphs are rather incomplete.
Reception
Box Office
  • Is it possible to expand beyond one paragraph?
Neutrality
Lead
  • "transformed into a hideous monster"..... however widely he might be regarded as ugly, seems biased. I'd remove the "hideous" part.
Plot
  • In the first paragraph, the "monstrous" part in "transforms him into a monstrous beast" seems biased
  • In the second paragraph, the "beautiful" part in "a beautiful young woman" also seems biased, same with the bit on "her beauty"
Cast
  • Again, even if Belle is widely regarded as beautiful, this bit should be removed as it seems biased to call her such
  • Calling the prince "handsome" in human form and "hideous" in beast form both seem biased, remove these bits
  • Calling Maurice "eccentric" seems biased, even if he was seen as such within the village
  • Calling Lefou "clever" seems borderline-biased
Stability
  • This recently experienced edit warring, even though that has desisted.
GA Result
  • I really hate to have to say this, but I have to fail the GAN due to the numerous problems listed. Don't renominate right away, though. I'm willing to re-review it after it's been thoroughly edited, though.